A while back the Japanese government had a campaign to encourage non-Okinawans to adopt a diet more like Okinawans. The traditional Japanese diet is white rice, pickles, and miso soup. The government was trying to get people to eat more pork specifically, but more animal protein of all kinds.
[QUOTE=Kool;1175177]IsI've been researching the Okinawan people of Japan who tend to live the longest of all populations. They tend to eat vegetables the most, sweet potatoes and rice for starch, very minimal meat like pork which is eaten for special occasions, some fruit, lots of seaweed, some fish, and very little fat and dairy. They also eat moderate levels of tofu and beans.
Their diet is almost the complete opposite of paleo because of their low intake of protein and fats. They also eat tofu which a paleo no no.
Perhaps we could learn from them?[/QUOTE]
Now your just trolling right? If you wanna eat like an Okinawan be sure to get plenty of pork offal! Read here:
[url=http://huntgatherlove.com/content/what-about-okinawans]What about the Okinawans? | Melissa McEwen on food anthropology, economics, and culture[/url]
"In a study of Japanese migrants in the United States the cultural upbringing was the strongest predictor of coronary heart disease. Those who were brought up in a non-Japanese fashion but preferred the lean Japanese food had a heart attack almost twice as often as those who were brought up in the Japanese way but preferred fatty American food.4" :eek:
Not to mention the Okinawans have a genetic variation that helps greatly in their longevity.
Hey while your picking random societies why not look at the hundreds of hunter gatherer tribes cataloged who eat an average of 70-85% of their calories from "hunted" animals. None of them suffer any diseases of civilization either, and given that we are talking hundreds of societies rather than one particular group its highly unlikely that there are genetic causes for their good health.
I was just gonna say good luck and leave you to your thing, but since you evoked the "maybe we..." thing I don't feel to bad setting things straight :)
But still good luck to ya!
Macronutrient ratios are all well and good to be concerned about but then there is also calories. You switched from eating horse fodder and birdseed to some much more nutrient dense food. If you kept eating the same quantities, you probably ate more calories. No mystery why you gained weight.
[QUOTE=Paleobird;1175219]Macronutrient ratios are all well and good to be concerned about but then there is also calories. You switched from eating horse fodder and birdseed to some much more nutrient dense food. If you kept eating the same quantities, you probably ate more calories. No mystery why you gained weight.[/QUOTE]
You habitually refer to plant foods as horse fodder and now birdseed, does that mean the carnivorous foods you prefer are dog chow? I think your contempt for plants goes a bit far.
[QUOTE=Neckhammer;1175154]This for sure.
50% protein way high. You musta been doing the "I'm going paleo but I'm still scared of fat" model.
And I have no idea what a freelea is....[/QUOTE]
I think that's the online pseudonym for durian rider's partner, and thus guilty by association.
Okinawans eat a LOT of pork, not the original scant amount reported.
The Okinawan Vegitarian myth seems to be as hard to kill as the Lipid Hypothesis.
Kool, go and do some real reading on the Okinawan's.
Health is not relevant to the instant gratification generation, if that is what you are after, then find the glossiest image of the perfect body you want and follow the script, when it fails you then come back, slightly humbled, this will involve some psychological hurdles, and start looking at the details and you will find your way, lower carb, higher carb it don't matter, but when you start listening to your body and not your head you will find the way, let your head do the information gathering, that's what it's good at and then let your body make the choices, it's always right.
[QUOTE=j3nn;1175294]You habitually refer to plant foods as horse fodder and now birdseed, does that mean the carnivorous foods you prefer are dog chow? I think your contempt for plants goes a bit far.[/QUOTE]
Well she does eat the same things as her dog, so probably.
I think it's cute, to imagine them eating out of the same bowl.
Have you ever heard of Paul Check and Metabolic Typing? There is lots of room for a paleo/primal diet using these guidelines. According to metabolic typing you are either one of 3 types: Protein, Mixed or Carb. It sounds like your body thrives on carbohydrates. If you feel good eating with those macro's DO IT! It's easy to do it without grains or legumes (and your diet will be a lot cheaper than most of ours!). Fill up on yams, fruits, veggies, squashes, likely potatoes are ok for you too. Enjoy, don't stress.
[QUOTE=Derpamix;1175495]Well she does eat the same things as her dog, so probably.
I think it's cute, to imagine them eating out of the same bowl.[/QUOTE]
Don't see the problem with that. I don't feed anything to my dogs that I wouldn't/don't eat.
They just get less fruit and veggies than me.