Beyond Meat and Veg
I've been primal (paleo, really) for a long time and love it. I have a friend who's interested in getting on-board... however her problem is that she can't imagine eating "nothing but meat and vegetables" all the time.
I explained that's not all you eat on primal. You can have starches, fruits, nuts, seeds, etc and some people do dairy. Her reply was "But if I'm going to do this, I want to do it ALL the way" -- the implication being that anything outside meat/veg was somehow "less perfect", since Grok subsisted mainly on meat/veg and anything else would be a rare treat.
This leads to my question... do any of you ONLY eat meat and veggies? How many of you have starch/fruit/nuts daily, and do you need to exercise more when you eat these things?
I sometimes eat a handful of macadamias and a can of tuna for lunch and call it a day, but she's starting to make me think I'm not being very Grok-like by making this a frequent thing...
That level of purism is silly. She is creating unreasonable and unsustainable restrictions. I think she just doesn't want to do it.
[QUOTE=eKatherine;1150393]That level of purism is silly. She is creating unreasonable and unsustainable restrictions. I think she just doesn't want to do it.[/QUOTE]
I think the problem is she discovered the forums too soon... she sees people saying "dairy made me gain!" and "nuts made me stop losing!" and "starches stalled me!" and so she refuses to risk her progress (even though she only has around ten lbs to lose). I told her if she counts her macros she can eat anything (primal) that she wants. If I want a yam, I count that heavily into my carbs for the day. If I want cream, I count that, too...
I'd be insanely bored on meat and veggies. I get bored even with all of the PHD/WAPF/Peat choices at my disposal! You'd have to really not care too much about variety to be happy with just meat and veg.
Only people with serious dietary restrictions go that hardcore.
[QUOTE=ForgotMyOldUsername;1150390]This leads to my question... do any of you ONLY eat meat and veggies?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I mostly only eat meat and veggies cooked in case iron skillet in grass-fed butter. Done.
It's really the ultimate formula. There are actually infinite combinations especially when you integrate herbs and different cooking techniques with the meat. It gets you everything you need, and nothing you don't, plus makes shopping quick and easy, and teaching the diet to others easy.
Salmon and carrots, chicken and broccoli, duck and leeks, chorizo and onion, pork and red bell peppers, ground beef and onions, steak and asparagus...always finding new combinations.
So yeah, I don't think it gets old.
But I go thru phases though where I include heavy cream, or sweet potatoes, or lots of nuts, but it does seem to get tricky...too many non meat/vegi items seems to require workout. My first two months on paleo was strict meat/vegi, it's a good starting place, then add back a few things if you want to experiment.
[QUOTE=eKatherine;1150404]Only people with serious dietary restrictions go that hardcore.[/QUOTE]
LOL, I guess I'm just an oddball.
I'm not obese and don't have any "dietary restrictions", I just like cooking with meat and vegi. Simple, and tasty, and nutritionally gets the job done.
my husband does the cooking, and he's not fancy, but we eat the wider list -- meat, veg, eggs, butter, nuts, seeds, and fruit. that's mostly what we eat. ;)
Grok ate shellfish, seafood, wild game, fruit, roots, tubers and little bits of vegetation. Thats real. Eating domesticated animals and vegetables is not paleo.
[QUOTE=Zach;1150435]Grok ate shellfish, seafood, wild game, fruit, roots, tubers and little bits of vegetation. Thats real. Eating domesticated animals and vegetables is not paleo.[/QUOTE]
Domesticated animals have a stronger claim to paleo-ness than domesticated vegetables. Pastoralism and all that. But your point is one I find myself surprisingly in agreement with.