The Mind / Brain Discussion
[QUOTE=Rojo;1140401]The "mind" side is what traditional psychology has been about -- talk therapy, reflection, etc..
Before traditional psychology the mind has always been the arena of religions. Traditional psychology is very recent; Freud began it in the late 1800's. Through a tangled number of translations or mistaken translations the words soul and mind had become synonomous hundreds of years B.C.. From the earliest Christianity the mind and soul were synonomous and were later believed to be the "Holy Ghost", the 'representation' of "God" in a person, their conscience. And this debate/discussion has been going on since science discovered the brain and some of its functions.
Today, the example that comes to mind is the treatment of Alchoholism. It is treated in clinics medically with lots of a large variety of drugs. Treatments typically lasts 4-6 weeks. The Shick Center test for a successful cure is that the patient is sober 6 months after treatment. In this path the brain is chemically altered.
The mind path is represented by AA. No drugs, not even asprin, are used. Treatment is via the mind and lasts 3-5 years. A successful cure is determined when the individual dies (hopefully of old age) sober. Thus it is very difficult to compare success. But in a number of such well-done studies AA is by far the more successful. No contest.
However the point I wish to make is that both treatments can work. Either the brain (as altered) can influence the mind, or the mind (as altered) can alter the chemistry of the brain.
I agree wholheartedly with Rojo. Our culture today has swung entirely to the "bag of chemicals" brain side and is badly out of balance. We also have dumped philosophy, psychology, religion, etc. as if they were of no value at all. This in spite of the obvious facts that wars over exactly these fields are costing us a lot of money and trouble.