[QUOTE=Derpamix;1184414]The physical attribute I'm attracted most to, is that leg gap between the thighs.[/QUOTE]
Really? Of all the things you could be attracted to in a woman, you're attracted to the thigh gap? How strange. (Not saying that there's anything wrong with it, just odd, that's all.)
I think having a thigh gap is partly being really thin and partly having the right bone structure. You also can't be too muscular.
I actually find it to be really ugly. It's especially noticeable when women with really thin legs wear really tight jeans, and then the gap is really obvious. It looks odd somehow. I don't know--it's all subjective.
I think the nicest thing on a woman are nice full breasts. (I will actually look at women's breasts, like kinda stare for a second, the way men do, even though I'm mostly straight.) I myself have small breasts, which is very unfortunate (and unfair since my mom has large breasts and of all the things I inherited from her, the breasts were not one of them), and if I ever got plastic surgery, it would be a boob job.
[QUOTE=PaleoMom;1184631]Okay, here is a decent example. She is thin, possible thigh gap if we could see it but lots of muscle makes for a full, round ass that is big in a good way and not the full figured way, which is not what I was trying to endorse. I'm just trying to be clear that I'm not trying to become a full figured girl just wanting the muscle to keep me round :)
That's a picture of a nice ass.
Really thin women in tight jeans? Yes please. I don't know, I find it insanely attractive, even if most men don't even notice it(seems to be a female aspiration more than anything, ie; "thinspiration") I notice small things I find beautiful about the female body, that goes beyond the normal "tits and ass" fascination. It's like an admiration, the female body really is infinitely attractive. Soft, delicate, artistic, and I even notice how they're much more sensitive to touch than men. You can see that in how they react to finger tips running over most areas of their body. Of course, I've never touched a man like that, but for myself, I know I'm far less sensitive to touch.
Odd? You bet. I never have been anything but though.
Oh, the thigh gap... Envy of all women. Only had it when I was 100 lbs. I have this permanent bump between my thighs that closes the gap, but then it opens again below that bump. It's the oddest physical feature... No idea where it came from...
Anyway, I agree that YB looks beautiful in those photos. Very feminine and fit. I also think Kino is gorgeous for the same reason.
[quote=Derp]I'm of the opinion that mind > matter[/quote]
True. I most of my symptoms seem to go away when I'm the busiest. Why? because I'm not thinking about them... We create our own problems.
First, a lot of "thigh gap" is actually body positioning in the photograph. Even in the one posted, it's the feet apart with toes and knees turned in, internal rotation of the femur out of the hip joint, no glute activation that draws the front of the pubic bone back that makes the thigh gap look bigger.
taking the gal in the picture posted and putting her into a health stance, she'd not only be stronger/healthier for it long term, but she'd also have far less thigh gap -- maybe an inch. This is, of course, meaning healthy, naturally thin/petite people (largely my yoga students who are that body type).
I'm not as thin as those students, and when I'm standing with "super awesome" posture (feet hip distance apart), I have about a half-inch thigh gap. Feet together? no gap. If I put myself in that twisted up position, 2-3 inch gap. KWIM?
Second, Kino is attractive. She also has postural issues. I would love t work with her on those. :D That being said, she is a *tiny* person and being a much less petite person, Paleomom is right -- we don't look the same when we get as lean/whatever. We tend to look quite a bit larger and more intimidating. At least, this is what I've been told from when I was my leanest and smallest version of myself -- I still was intimidating.
Of course, it could be that I'm just intimidating to people.
Third, I'm much more about getting one's body working really, really well, and then getting a good understanding ofwhat that body's natural appearance is and then appreciating that. Seriously, I do love my body. It's super stupid sore today because of my posture work (which is rehabilitative). It's amazing how quickly it works once you start doing it, but damn.
Anyway, DH says that I look like a different woman now that I'm accessing the proper biomechanics to stand, sit, and walk. I struggle with my yoga practice because I'm used to a completely different feeling/proprioception for the postures. It's a lot of work developing those new neuro-pathways.
Nevertheless, when I look in the mirror, I like what i see. I suppose that it doesn't look like what other people "like" or what is fashionable right now or whatever. But you know what? not really caring.
I know that my body is healthy and getting healthier. I think I'm 'pretty' -- not gorgeous or whatever, but nice looking. And I think my body is attractive too. It is particularly now that my posture is fixing and my boobs are even (as are my hips and shoulders now, and my head is also straightening out -- amazing how it works).
Anyway, now I'm rambling.
Jaysus. I'm a good 6ft tall. I slouch and all and my posture's terrifying, but yes. People tell me I'm intimidating ALL THE TIME. Even when I'm quite underweight...especially men. It's as though I'm being tall *at them*. Er, no. This is how much space my body takes up - it's your problem if you find that threatening (and, yes, you are thinning a bit on top).
I'm of the opinion that mind > matter.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree. How's it working out for you?
@Paleomom, Cierra, Ombat: thank you for the kind words :)
Posting those pics was a lot more triggering than I thought it would be. Ever since then I found myself filled with loathing towards my body, and thinking about crash diets. Which doesn't really make sense, considering the supportive comments you guys gave me!
I know that this is an inner problem and I need to sort that before addressing the outer problem. It's more important for me to finally accept my body than to think about dropping body fat.
[QUOTE=badgergirl;1185162]Jaysus. I'm a good 6ft tall. I slouch and all and my posture's terrifying, but yes. People tell me I'm intimidating ALL THE TIME. Even when I'm quite underweight...especially men. It's as though I'm being tall *at them*. Er, no. This is how much space my body takes up - it's your problem if you find that threatening (and, yes, you are thinning a bit on top).[/QUOTE]
I slouched so much for most of my life that people thought I was only 5'5! And it was completely (subconsciously) intentional: I was trying to hide myself, make myself as small and inconspicuous as possible. Probably why I felt more comfortable underweight too.
I made a thread about this, but I figured I'd post it here too. Got my blood and hormone results back. Any insights any one could give me would be really appreciated!
My Estrogen is high. The range is between 28 - 1828 (depending on time of cycle) - mine is 2028.
My cortisol is high. Morning range is 6.2 - 19.4. Mine is 20.67.
Prolactin (337.3), Progesteron (1.94), testosterone (1.18)are all in the normal range.
Also got Serotonin tested but have to wait two weeks for this.
TSH: 1.42 (normal)
FT3: 3.84 (norm is 3.13 - 6.76)
FT4: 12.29 (norm is 12 - 22)
LH: 10.32 }
FSH: 3.09 } Don't know much about these, but they seem normal?
So I'm not hypo, but my FT3 and FT4 are borderline.
I have an infection here. No idea how long I might have had this.
Erythrocytes and leukocytes are both a little high (23 and 25 respectively; norms are 20).
Flat epithelium is quite high: 89 (norm is less than 30)
Bacteria: 3490 (norm is less than 400)
pH was fine (6.5).
I've given another sample and am seeing the doctor tomorrow. They say I have to go on anti-biotics but need to determine which ones. I hate going on anti-biotics. What can I do to help my gut flora repopulate? Should I take a probiotic?
[U]Blood and Lipids[/U]
Weird result with my iron and ferretin. My iron is high: 154 (norm is 145), but my ferretin is on the lower side of normal: 35 (norm is 13 - 150).
Total Cholesterol: 354 (from 355 (which was the recheck) a few weeks ago)
LDL: 229 (from 220.5 a few weeks ago)
HDL: 108 (from 114.46)
Trigs: 83 (from 109)
So cholesterol is still high, LDL has gone up even more, and HDL has gone down. But there's a good improvement in my trigs in just a few weeks. I severely reduced my fat intake and started taking milk thistle.
Mostly everything was normal, but my hematocrits, Monocytes and leukocytes are borderline low, and my neutrocytes are slightly under. Could be explained by the urinary infection?
Inflammation is practically non existent: 0.3 (the norm is 5)
Fasting glucose is 84 (norm is 74 - 106)
Electrolytes and minerals are perfect.
A lot of info I know. If anyone has the stomach or knowledge to help I'd really appreciate it! I"m seeing an endo tomorrow, and getting a scan of my reproductive system. So will know more then.
[QUOTE=YogaBare;1185209]I completely agree. How's it working out for you?[/QUOTE]
Pretty good, I think, I don't stress over the small stuff just the big stuff