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[QUOTE=slowcooker;1101778]You are right - steak is better and easier to absorb. About 40% of the protein in meat is bio-available vs. 20% or so from powders or even eggs whites. .[/QUOTE]
Where did you get these numbers? Cuz I think they are wrong.
Whey Protein in general is pretty much the go-to powdered protein source and it has a superior bioavailability score to beef. High grade Whey Protein Isolate sources score nearly double in BV to beef.
[url=http://foodguru802.blogspot.ca/2012/01/protein-bioavailability-list.html]The Food Guru: Protein Bioavailability List[/url]
[url=http://www.livestrong.com/article/518138-bioavailability-of-whey-protein/]Bioavailability Of Whey Protein | LIVESTRONG.COM[/url]
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Much more hardcore to make a pre-workout shake on a scoop or two of Brewers Yeast! It tastes horrible but it gives very good energy and the amino acid profile is also great...
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[QUOTE=slowcooker;1101778]You are right - steak is better and easier to absorb. About 40% of the protein in meat is bio-available vs. 20% or so from powders or even eggs whites. One thing you could benefit from is BCAA supplements. There is lots of good info on this site [url=http://www.bioletics.com/]Bioletics | Know you body, find you edge![/url] Read the Eric Cressey interviews.[/QUOTE]
It says on that site :
"Research indicates that approximately 40% of the protein in high biological foods such as whole eggs, meat, fish, poultry is used by the body for anabolic purposes. Only about 20% of that found in low biological food such as whey, soy, egg whites, beans and nuts is used for growth and repair."
To which research is he referring?
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I have recently begun to look back at them, primarily as an inexpensive protein source. Don't care much for eggs, and an egg only has like 6 grams anyways.
Not a lifter or builder, but I am an armature martial artist and I do cycle.
They're basically meal replacement for me.
M.
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I use whey because it is a lean source of protein, and I want to hit 150-200 g a day without the load of fat. Egg whites, boiled turkey breast and white fish are the other good sources, but sometimes I want a smoothie. I will probably go back to egg whites in my smoothies though once this tub of whey is done, since I like sorbet like texture more than the creamy milk-shake one more.
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The thing for me is that I have a relatively weak stomach when it comes to working out, so I need to have something that absorbs fast prior to the workout, or whatever I have won't be with me for long. I think it works great as a suppliment to actual food, but not a main source of protein.
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I've started making them when I don't have a lot of time for a meal, but one thing that I think helps is that I add some coconut milk (really the creamy stuff that separates in the can). This ensures that I get some healthy medium chain fats for energy along with that punch of protein. I also eat in a restricted window most days, so it's hard to get enough protein when I only have one meal a day.
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[QUOTE=Damiana;1101673]No. I see no need for them unless you're a weight lifter who's obsessed with bulking up and getting your protein nownownowNOW after a workout. I get sufficient protein through my food, and its a hell of a lot more enjoyable gnawing on a shank of pork than to drink a flavored chemical shake.[/QUOTE]
Seems like a lot of misconceptions floating around this thread. Firstly, it's easy to find pure whey protein that doesn't have chemicals in it if you look past the major bodybuilding stuff. Secondly, protein shakes aren't what help you bulk up - a shitload of calories of which protein is a part does that. For any competitive athlete whey is a godsend, it isn't just for bodybuilders. I notice a huge difference in my recovery the next morning after comp training at judo if I throw a protein/carb shake straight down once we bow off the mat. When I don't bother with the shake and instead eat dinner a half an hour ish later, I generally wake up feeling like a truck has hit me.
No one is saying you should replace meals with protein shakes. They are [I]supplements[/I] people.
[quote]It says on that site :
"Research indicates that approximately 40% of the protein in high biological foods such as whole eggs, meat, fish, poultry is used by the body for anabolic purposes. Only about 20% of that found in low biological food such as whey, soy, egg whites, beans and nuts is used for growth and repair."
To which research is he referring? [/quote]
I'm curious too. So egg yolks are "high biological" and egg whites are "low biological". Hmmm, I call bullshit.
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No. I tend not to drink calories of any description.
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[QUOTE=judoka;1102475]Seems like a lot of misconceptions floating around this thread. Firstly, it's easy to find pure whey protein that doesn't have chemicals in it if you look past the major bodybuilding stuff. Secondly, protein shakes aren't what help you bulk up - a shitload of calories of which protein is a part does that. For any competitive athlete whey is a godsend, it isn't just for bodybuilders. I notice a huge difference in my recovery the next morning after comp training at judo if I throw a protein/carb shake straight down once we bow off the mat. When I don't bother with the shake and instead eat dinner a half an hour ish later, I generally wake up feeling like a truck has hit me.
No one is saying you should replace meals with protein shakes. They are [I]supplements[/I] people.
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I agree with this. I will have a protein shake maybe once a week after a tough workout. Whey is the most bioavailabe protein source partly because it has one of the best net absorption rates. I agree that we should consume whole foods more so than liquid sources but whey protein used as a supplement can be very advantageous in certain situations.
[url]http://www.livestrong.com/article/518138-bioavailability-of-whey-protein/[/url]
