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Ayla, I have type 1 diabetes. I tried VLC and had bad insulin resistance. All my macros were in the right percentages to be in ketosis meaning I wasn't eating too much protein. I use an insulin pump and dial in my carbs and get an insulin bolus accordingly. Even with raising the basal (the continual drip I get through out the day/night) I had high blood sugars. My body was demanding more insulin on VLC than when I ate moderate carbs and more protein. Most days on VLC I used the same if not more insulin than when eating 100-150 grams of carbs.
I understand that a lot of people thrive on VLC but I wasn't one of them. Everybody has a different body with different issuses and needs.
So my advice would be to up carbs some, lower the fat some and eat more protein.
I am fairly active... I lift heavy 2x a week, run, walk, sprint about 3-4 days a week and do not work a desk job. I am 5'6 and my weight fluctuates between 135-139. My carbs are anywhere from 100-175 grams total. All from veggies, potatoes, plantains, fruit, etc. I also try and make sure I have enough fat in my meals to blunt a blood sugar spike from my carbs... and of course protein in every meal too. I really like my protein. :)
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It's not the same kind of insulin resistance. Sheesh. I wish that stupid low carb causes insulin resistance thing would die. What causes the bad kind of insulin resistance is junk food.
Ayla, don't replace you BP coffee with eggs and bacon. If you aren't hungry, wait until you are. Then eat either meat and veggies or veggies and meat. Whatever kind of veggies you want.
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[QUOTE=Zach;1097132]Protein raises insulin just as much as carbs. [/QUOTE]
On what science do you base that statement?
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[QUOTE=sbhikes;1097212]It's not the same kind of insulin resistance. Sheesh. I wish that stupid low carb causes insulin resistance thing would die. What causes the bad kind of insulin resistance is junk food.
Ayla, don't replace you BP coffee with eggs and bacon. If you aren't hungry, wait until you are. Then eat either meat and veggies or veggies and meat. Whatever kind of veggies you want.[/QUOTE]
Induces PIR != causes pathological ir
Not the same type of IR is exactly why one shouldn't jump to the conclusion of starting a prescription medication.
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[QUOTE=EagleRiverDee;1097221]On what science do you base that statement?[/QUOTE]
You know, that type of good ol' science that takes blood and urine samples maybe? Some prosessed proteins such a whey isolate, may spike insulin even more than pure sugar if taken on an empty stomach! The good news is that fat slows everything down though and most proteins comes with some fat...
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[QUOTE=EagleRiverDee;1097221]On what science do you base that statement?[/QUOTE]
Well protein does induce an insulin response.... it just so happens that it also causes a glucagon response at the same time keeping blood sugars normalized. Of course to just leave it there doesn't do the whole thing justice and Mark has even written a blog post on it so I'll just link that :). [url=http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/#axzz2Kj62qHyZ]Insulin Index | Mark's Daily Apple[/url]
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[QUOTE=Neckhammer;1097233]Well protein does induce an insulin response.... it just so happens that it also causes a glucagon response at the same time keeping blood sugars normalized. Of course to just leave it there doesn't do the whole thing justice and Mark has even written a blog post on it so I'll just link that :). [url=http://www.marksdailyapple.com/insulin-index/#axzz2Kj62qHyZ]Insulin Index | Mark's Daily Apple[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the link, I appreciate your response to my question.
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[QUOTE=sbhikes;1097212]It's not the same kind of insulin resistance. Sheesh. I wish that stupid low carb causes insulin resistance thing would die. What causes the bad kind of insulin resistance is junk food.
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Not exactly sure what you mean by this. Insulin resistance is insulin resistance... no matter if it is from eating junk or by eating VLC. Both scenarios cause the body to be less sensitive to insulin therefore needing more insulin.
Low carb did cause insulin resistance in me.
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Do you take meds for yours? Oh you are type 1 is that right?
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I'm T1.5
I was drug free for 2 years until I got pregnant, and had to go back on insulin, but I should be getting back off soon thanks to Primal :)
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Ayla,
Ping me any time - and I mean that. I have dropped about 60 pounds on a 5'1" frame (heavy frame for my height, the charts say - I kind of doubt that). I was pushing Type II, probably had at least the beginnings of fatty liver. I did the first part CICO - then fewer and fewer carbs - and now I'm finishing with ketosis. It works for me. HF, MP, VLC leaves me feeling great, and I am losing fat, though not so much weight. I LIKE the implications of that.
If you can be patient with yourself, your body has AMAZING healing powers. I went into NK in Sept. By mid-late Nov, I couldn't work out any more, my resting pulse was way higher than my norm (84-88 vs 48-52) and I attributed it to stress at work (no shortage of that). My physical in early Dec showed very HYPERthyroid. I cut out my supplemental iodine, pushed more water to help flush things, and pushed [U]me[/U] to walk more reliably and do some body weight work as well as hit my beloved KBs some.
We also did some other tests to ensure the thyroid wasn't tumerous. My last bloodwork, two weeks ago, showed strong signs of recovery, though I'm not all the way back. I can 50-50 (run 50 steps, walk 50 steps) for an entire mile as of this evening. Bodyweight work is coming along.
There are plenty of success stories of weight loss - most include relaxing and believing in what you're doing. It's hard when you're getting started, but you can FEEL the effects of some changes before any medical test shows them.
If you want to understand reliable low carb nutrition (recommended for diabetics), I strongly recommend Phinney & Volek's first book ([URL="http://www.amazon.com/Art-Science-Low-Carbohydrate-Living/dp/0983490708/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360986595&sr=1-2&keywords=phinney+low+carbohydrate"]The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living: An Expert Guide to Making the Life-Saving Benefits of Carbohydrate Restriction Sustainable and Enjoyable: Stephen D. Phinney, Jeff S. Volek: 9780983490708: Amazon.com: Books[/URL]). Their second ([URL="http://www.amazon.com/Art-Science-Low-Carbohydrate-Performance/dp/0983490716/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360986595&sr=1-1&keywords=phinney+low+carbohydrate"]Amazon.com: The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance (9780983490715): Jeff S. Volek, Stephen D. Phinney: Books[/URL]) has a terrific graph of fat release vs insulin concentration - the bottom line is that it takes very little insulin to prevent fat release from stores. To lose weight, and especially to manage diabetes, control insulin - which means controlling carbs. Protein and fat will also stimulate insulin - some - but they also stimulate glucagon; carbs will not. That matters enormously.
Wooo ([URL="http://itsthewooo.blogspot.com/"]The Scribble Pad[/URL]) lost 160 pounds on basically an Atkins diet, and her commenters reflect similar experiences - they lose and feel better via insulin control via low carb. Some (possibly including me) seem to be insulin hyper-secreters -- our bodies simply respond BIG TIME with insulin in the presence of carb - which means we have a very low tolerance for carb. Others are more fortunate. With time, and patience, and record-keeping (not to lose weight, but to learn - and the different goal will help) you can figure out what works for you. You're not me, or Zach, or Drumroll, or .... you're you.
We're here with you. Give your body a chance - we'll help.
