Hitting your kids

[QUOTE=Chaohinon;1092923][img]http://joshhamiltonfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/meme-are-you-kidding-me.png[/img][/QUOTE]

No, I am not kidding you. There are persons who live in such relationships.

[QUOTE=Mr.Perfidy;1092921]I smack my wife![/QUOTE]

What a troll.
And a lame one.
Weak sauce.

that is ignorant really to say that every cruel asshole kid just has failed parents. Some people are just born to be cruel assholes. It isn't necessarily anyone's fault. But you can at least smack them so that they bring their asshole behavior to victims to whom you are not related.

[quote]And where did they learn that behavior? Were they watching re-runs of Jerry Springer in the fucking womb? [/quote]

one- probably. Also they were hyper-caffeineted and toxified and probably immersed in a marinade of screaming hostile voices from the time that they were 2 cells.

two- who cares at all? What are you people talking about? When someone is attacking you, or looming and threatening aggression, your reflexes don't go, "hmmmmmm....?" They put your hands up, palms sweat for weapon-wielding, digestion stops, pancreatic insulin response and shit- fight time.

lol cori I was not being serious about that. Not like in this context anyway.

Maybe this is why I seem to have such a difficult time understanding where all of yous are coming from. In my house a slap can have the same context as a hug. IT DOESN"T DAMAGE PHYSICAL TISSUE PEOPLE. IT CAN't INJURE YOU. Chill out.

Nope.. sorry. That "asshole" behavior in kids is LEARNED behavior.

You should brush up on your psych development.

[QUOTE=Mr.Perfidy;1092927]that is ignorant really to say that every cruel asshole kid just has failed parents. Some people are just born to be cruel assholes.[/QUOTE]The only time this holds up is if a kid is born with a major chemical imbalance, like bipolar disorder. In which case hitting them is even more retarded than if they were normal.

[QUOTE=canio6;1092925]No, I am not kidding you. There are persons who live in such relationships.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm well aware that there are sick men and women out there who love the alpha-male dynamic. Do you honestly not see anything abusive or unhealthy about that kind of situation?

Also, what happens when such a couple has kids? Do you think the mother will stand up for them when the husband turns his ire on them?

I pretty much mean psychopaths and sociopaths, who are a significant percent of the population and do not necessarily require any abuse at all to be assholes. In an area with high population density (where I live) 4% of the population = hundreds of such lunatics in a given shopping trip.

[QUOTE=Chaohinon;1092933]Yes, I'm well aware that there are sick men and women out there who love the alpha-male dynamic. Do you honestly not see anything abusive or unhealthy about that kind of situation?

Also, what happens when such a couple has kids? Do you think the mother will stand up for them when the husband turns his ire on them?[/QUOTE]

I was talking about two consenting adults agreeing on rules and consequences. If both parties agree and no one is being coerced is it abuse? Perhaps. I am not a psychologist. I just think adults should be allowed to make their own decisions even if I do not understand them. I don't understand why anyone would want multiple spouses, or to cheat on their spouse, or to drive a Prius, but hell, this is America.

As for when they have kids, I would presume they would change up their dynamic to make it work. Much like two young married folks might f*ck on the kitchen table but would probably stop once Junior came along.

[QUOTE=Mr.Perfidy;1092929]lol cori I was not being serious about that. Not like in this context anyway.

Maybe this is why I seem to have such a difficult time understanding where all of yous are coming from. In my house a slap can have the same context as a hug. IT DOESN"T DAMAGE PHYSICAL TISSUE PEOPLE. IT CAN't INJURE YOU. Chill out.[/QUOTE]

A slap CAN damage physical tissue and CAN injure you.
You are way off base there.

Black eyes, bruising, bloody noses... a week of not leaving the house so the neighbors don't see.
Or at least getting really good with make-up and trying to hide that shit.
In a small child fractured bones can happen.

[QUOTE=canio6;1092939]I was talking about two consenting adults agreeing on rules and consequences. If both parties agree and no one is being coerced is it abuse? Perhaps. I am not a psychologist. I just think adults should be allowed to make their own decisions even if I do not understand them. I don't understand why anyone would want multiple spouses, or to cheat on their spouse, or to drive a Prius, but hell, this is America.

As for when they have kids, I would presume they would change up their dynamic to make it work. Much like two young married folks might f*ck on the kitchen table but would probably stop once Junior came along.[/QUOTE]


IMO, a woman who would agree to that kind of arrangement would have be developmentally retarded in some major way, and definitely a victim of serious childhood trauma. And the man is preying on her broken mental state for his benefit. I don't see how it's any different than the way pimps and porn producers prey on women who've been raped and molested.

Do they have a right to arrange their relationship that way? Er, I guess so. But they should also be forcefully sterilized and never allowed to be alone around kids.

Don't get me wrong, I'm as libertarian as they come. But looking at a clearly fucked up husband-wife or parent-child dynamic and saying, "herp derp, let them do what they want" is a major fail, and a hypocritical breach of the child's liberty.