[QUOTE=geostump;1099697]Yes. The closer I get it to 70g, the more difficult it becomes for me to lose weight. I can tell I've gained something back due to my pants fitting tighter in the gut than they have in awhile. I did tend to have a protein blowout over the weekend so that could be a part of it. Plus, I think the Russian Circus may be making its arrival soon. Between the two, I have noticed some gain. The easiest way for me to not hit the higher end of the protein scale is to not eat it at breakfast and to try to have as little protein as possible with breakfast.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=demuralist;1099701]I do best if I split my protein evenly, right now I am shooting for less than 23g per meal.[/QUOTE]
I have not a found a way to split it evenly. If I could, I would.
[QUOTE=Gladmorning;1099642]I have no idea how I would keep my protein to 60g and under, but not eat dairy[/QUOTE]
Before tonight & pebbles new idea which I am now going to try I was going to eat 57-58g of protein a day simply by eating a tin of fish (in the UK they come in 88g sizes) & a very small (3oz) piece of turkey or chicken breast +a couple of eggs (1 yolk/1whole). My intended ratio was 19-2-79 cals 1270-1350 The only dairy I would have eaten was butter - not sure if you count that . Many people don't because it is pure fat & has no milk proteins in it.
l Hope this gives you some ideas
How long did it take everyone to not feel so hungry?
I'm on day 8 with good fat marcros but still hungry.
[QUOTE=something4me;1099784]How long did it take everyone to not feel so hungry?
I'm on day 8 with good fat marcros but still hungry.[/QUOTE]It is different for everyone, most people report a marked decrease in hunger after 2-3 weeks.
My hunger levels fluctuate cyclically. But my hunger is not the same as before I started this. I can let a hunger signal go and I won't get weak or ill. But the change was gradual. Of course I also lowered my carbs gradually too. somewhere between one and two weeks maybe.
Thanks Kymma and Demuralist.
I also seem to remember that for the first week or so, I didn't really pay attention to the calories, just added a bit of fat when I was hungry, it slowly settled down.
[QUOTE=Ddraig Goch;1099685]It depends hat you mean by a fat fast. If you Ignore the low calorie part & just look at upping your fat to 90% (Ie you assume the term to mean[I] taking nearly all of your calories from fat) [/I]then the following works:
If you assume Pg =60 = 10% of cals, Cg =6 = 1% of cals (carbs taken from eggs & nuts only) that leaves 89% for fat
This would give you 238g fat with a total of 2400 cals which I think is round about your BMR + activity
PS: Phinney states in his [I]Art & Science of Low Carb Performance [/I]that 0.6 x current LBM is the lowest you should go (which for me is 62g). Everyone has their own ideas I guess. This is why it makes it all so confusing & why we have to keep experimenting.[/QUOTE]
Sure, it would work that way, but I don't want to eat up to my TDEE even if I usually burn a little more. I will probably just try to hit the normal Fat Fast protocol for a few days, then move up to 60g protein.
According to Dr. Ede, the P & V formula gave her too much protein to reach the 4.0 mmol. That is why I was looking at the .36 x weight (I chose goal weight) from the Institute of Medicine.
You know what pisses me off...My Mom died of ovarian cancer 16 months ago. I sort of knew that low carb was the way to go and we extended her life a few years, but of course I wonder if we had just gone that extra mile...
Well, cancer risk is my main reason for taking on this extreme NK lifestyle. Hope I can remember that next time I want to binge.