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JoanieL, thanks for saying that about the WW points! I tried it for a few weeks, and even with the whizzbang iPhone app, calculating points for homemade food (and being confident you were doing it right) was really tricky. All the measuring ingredients, calculating portion sizes, etc... It encouraged you to eat WW food or food from chain restaurants (just look up "TGI Friday's Jack Daniel's steak" or whatever). Hence the co-worker upthread who thought Smarties were healthy because they were low points. I'm sure my average lunch is a whole day's worth of WW points, and I couldn't care less. I also can't be bothered to figure it out. PB is so freeing like that.
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What's the deal (meaning the CW expectation vs. real world data) on plant sterols? I never worried much about them but I just saw that my new bottle of multivitamins contains them.
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[QUOTE=JoanieL;1093479]What kind of floors me is that I hardly ever see anyone in a grocery store reading labels. I know a lot of grocery shopping is really repeating what you did last time you shopped, but really, I'm a people watcher, and there is a huge amount of faith in what that can or bottle says on the front. The one that really taught me was "Tuna in Water" - had soy in it.
Even more distressing is the blind faith some people have in Whole Foods Market. I shop there a lot, and for this area, it has the best selection and prices for grass fed beef and organic veggies (fresh and frozen), but once I'm out of the produce aisle and away from the meat counter, I read every label before it goes into my cart. Veggie oils and soy abound.
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Reading labels is also how you find some amazingly healthy alternatives to the usual crap you may "cheat" with.
Tesco's own brand or jarred tomato-sauce is 75p/500g. It's just over half tomato and bulked with all sorts of crap.
The best option I knew of until now, if you want a healthy, non home-made sauce was a branded version, which doesn't have quite as much rubbish, but is over twice the price (£1.80/500g).
Today I found a far better option in Pound-Stretcher: same price as Tesco's, but over 85% tomato (mostly plain tomato, but with some paste), made with olive-oil and dried herbs and garlic puree. Not an e-number, veg-oil or chemical in sight. The worst thing in it was a dash of sugar and some salt (and even those in less quantity than the "bargain" or "own brand" sauces!).
By CW-logic, something that cheap can't possibly be better than the expensive branded version. :rolleyes: Yet, if you want some tomato for a sauce, it's even better than canned stuff (the chemicals that leach from the can = not good) and than all-bar-one of the branded sauces (which are often £1/250g).
I myself don't use it, but my fiance uses tomato sauce and tinned tomatoes once in a while and I like to keep an eye out for healthier alternatives for him too. :)
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Speaking of reading ingredient labels, I just had a big WTF??? moment that doesnt have to do with the normal CW drivel we see around here but is still head-desk inducing.
In our office kitchen, sometimes people bring in special coffees and teas to share (or dump, if they dont like them). Today someone brought in some flavored Lipton green teas. One was berry, and one was passion fruit and coconut. Im normally a super tea-snob, but I was intrigued by the flavor combination of passion fruit and coconut. Still, im sensitive to soy lecitin, which is often found in flavored teas, so I checked the ingredient label before trying one:
"Green tea, Orange peel, Jasmine tea, Natural coconut flavor, Sunflower lecitin, soy lecitin."
My first thought was "awww, crap, lecitin." My second thought was, "Wait....THERE IS NO PASSION FRUIT FLAVOR IN THIS!!! WTH!!?!!"
I mean, yes the taste of fresh passion fruit is very similar to a citrus taste, so thats probably why they used orange peel instead, but WHAT! THE! HELL! If its ORANGE coconut, thats fine! JUST CALL IT THAT!!!
Stupid, brash, bold-faced marketing lies right to our face. Grrrrr.
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Not sure if this fits here or not but a coworker said it today and I find it funny...
"I tried Atkins for two weeks and it worked - I was losing weight - but then I was in a restaurant and there was this sweet little old couple at another table and I just wanted to punch them both and I realized that eating so much meat was making me really aggressive! It's like my body was eating itself because I wasn't giving it any sugar which is like natural body food and in response it was just making me super aggressive. So I stopped and will never do low carb again."
Maybe the CW diet should get credit for America's declining crime rates....
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[QUOTE=Corvidae;1094371]Speaking of reading ingredient labels, I just had a big WTF??? moment that doesnt have to do with the normal CW drivel we see around here but is still head-desk inducing.
In our office kitchen, sometimes people bring in special coffees and teas to share (or dump, if they dont like them). Today someone brought in some flavored Lipton green teas. One was berry, and one was passion fruit and coconut. Im normally a super tea-snob, but I was intrigued by the flavor combination of passion fruit and coconut. Still, im sensitive to soy lecitin, which is often found in flavored teas, so I checked the ingredient label before trying one:
"Green tea, Orange peel, Jasmine tea, Natural coconut flavor, Sunflower lecitin, soy lecitin."
My first thought was "awww, crap, lecitin." My second thought was, "Wait....THERE IS NO PASSION FRUIT FLAVOR IN THIS!!! WTH!!?!!"
I mean, yes the taste of fresh passion fruit is very similar to a citrus taste, so thats probably why they used orange peel instead, but WHAT! THE! HELL! If its ORANGE coconut, thats fine! JUST CALL IT THAT!!!
Stupid, brash, bold-faced marketing lies right to our face. Grrrrr.[/QUOTE]
In a tea bag?? Oh crap!! Going to check mine when I get home.
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[QUOTE=athomeontherange;1094415]In a tea bag?? Oh crap!! Going to check mine when I get home.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah soy lecithin is REAL common as a component of "natural and artificial flavors" in teas and coffees since it acts as an emulsifier even in dried goods. I think only recently have companies started to label it explicitly, though.
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[QUOTE=Him;1094411]Not sure if this fits here or not but a coworker said it today and I find it funny...
"I tried Atkins for two weeks and it worked - I was losing weight - but then I was in a restaurant and there was this sweet little old couple at another table and I just wanted to punch them both and I realized that eating so much meat was making me really aggressive! It's like my body was eating itself because I wasn't giving it any sugar which is like natural body food and in response it was just making me super aggressive. So I stopped and will never do low carb again."
Maybe the CW diet should get credit for America's declining crime rates....[/QUOTE]
HAHAHAHA! This is hysterical. Meat eaters are just SOOO agressive - that's why you meet so many nice/tolerant vegans :rolleyes: right?
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[QUOTE=Purple Leather Couch;1094612]HAHAHAHA! This is hysterical. Meat eaters are just SOOO agressive - that's why you meet so many nice/tolerant vegans :rolleyes: right?[/QUOTE]
Durian Rider seems pretty darn angry to me... I wonder how much meat he's sneaking!
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[QUOTE=Corvidae;1094496]Oh yeah soy lecithin is REAL common as a component of "natural and artificial flavors" in teas and coffees since it acts as an emulsifier even in dried goods. I think only recently have companies started to label it explicitly, though.[/QUOTE]
That's because soy is "healthy" for you!!!