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[QUOTE=MamaGrok;1058195]Truer words have never been spoken. I was amazed at how my cravings went from 100% to 10% when I dropped grains. It took me years to realize that I only binged on foods that contained grain & sugar, then more years to realize that if I dropped the grains (which I could), the sugar urges would be so much more manageable, then more years to realize that lots of breakfast protein would make the binges a month or more between, then more years to realize that massive breakfast protein would end them altogether, so long as I stay away from the grains and any sweets, and eat tons of protein in the morning.
Yeah, cravings are biochemical. No doubt about it. Mine have an on/off switch, and it saved my life to learn that.
[B]I only hope that we can end the idea (that I myself once held) that fat people are fat (and bingers binge) b/c they're just gluttons with no self-control. ARe some? Probably. Are most? I seriously doubt it[/B].[/QUOTE]
Good point there. I made it to 252lb through laziness and eating crap like oreo's, pizza's, kebabs etc, no self control. Then I made it to 210lb when I added some exercise and ate a little better, but still mostly crap. Only this time the crap was the grains and sugar doing the damage. I was training my ass off and going nowhere. After going paleo, here I am at 182lb, feeling and looking great. I am still that person with no self control sometimes, but it only happens if I go off track and eat something sweet. If I'm strict paleo, I have no problems saying no.
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Oh yeah....
[QUOTE=magnolia1973;1058090]Mama Grok, you are spot on. You can't just eat less.
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I could NEVER "just eat less" when grains and sugar were part of my diet, no matter how hard I tried.[/QUOTE]
This "Aspire Assist" thing makes me think of history. We visited Pompeii a few years ago and they had vomitoriums. They would gorge and gorge and gorge and vomit it up so they could do it again later.
We have seen the enemy and he is us.
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[QUOTE=Corvidae;1051569][url=http://whatshouldwecallpaleolife.tumblr.com/post/34481154246/when-the-catering-at-the-mandatory-lunch-meeting-turns]What Should We Call Paleo Life | WHEN THE CATERING AT THE MANDATORY LUNCH MEETING TURNS OUT TO BE SANDWICHES[/url][/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'll have to finish this thread later... I can't stop watching the gifs!
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Not to bring the tone down but my father may very well lose his foot following shit advice like that. I will be glad to contribute to the conversation :mad:
[QUOTE=smilingjustalittlebit;1055240]Ongoing conversation on my facebook between a friend and her friends.
Anybody give me suggestions for low/carb/low fat meals please.
Response 1: Stir fry's are low fat an dlow carb. BUng in some Chinese noodles (this is me laughing now) to bulk it up and the blue dragon sauces are all low.
Response 2 (me): Good fat won't harm you at all.
Response 3: You need to be carefula bout taking carbs out of your diet cause it will effect your diabetes. I strongly suggest you take a more professional approach and guidance to a diet.
Response 4: Lettuce, lettuce and more lettuce. I'm back on my losing weight programme which consists of being miserable and eating rabbit food. Though I do feel better after losing it.
Sooooo, who wants to go first?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=sires6;1058606]This "Aspire Assist" thing makes me think of history. We visited Pompeii a few years ago and they had vomitoriums. They would gorge and gorge and gorge and vomit it up so they could do it again later.
We have seen the enemy and he is us.[/QUOTE]
In fairness to the Romans, who weren't above an emetic purge, the vomitorium thing is a myth. Vomitoria did exist, but it's a word for the exits from a stadium or theater, ejecting the crowds onto the street. The idea that they had special room s for the purpose of throwing up is nonsense.
What Roman recipes we have often aren't actually too bad - obviously no sugar, little flour. They can be a bit fond of chickpeas so skip those ones. Substitute Thai fish sauce for the liquamen.
[url=http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mjw/recipes/ethnic/historical/ant-rom-coll.html]Antique Roman Dishes - Collection[/url]
[url=http://www.3owls.org/sca/cook/roman.htm]Roman recipes from Apicius[/url]
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[QUOTE=cypselos;1060512]In fairness to the Romans, who weren't above an emetic purge, the vomitorium thing is a myth. Vomitoria did exist, but it's a word for the exits from a stadium or theater, ejecting the crowds onto the street. The idea that they had special room s for the purpose of throwing up is nonsense.
What Roman recipes we have often aren't actually too bad - obviously no sugar, little flour. They can be a bit fond of chickpeas so skip those ones. Substitute Thai fish sauce for the liquamen.
[url=http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~mjw/recipes/ethnic/historical/ant-rom-coll.html]Antique Roman Dishes - Collection[/url]
[url=http://www.3owls.org/sca/cook/roman.htm]Roman recipes from Apicius[/url][/QUOTE]
Not called a vomitorium, my mistake. They however did have rooms with the "accoutrement" in place, basins, wash areas, next to the dining area, separate from the bath. You are correct about the definition of vomitoriums, but I was correct about the usages.
As seen in Pompeii...
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[QUOTE=valmason01;1049388]mmm....would love to have both recipes![/QUOTE] Me too!!! I love to experiment the Paleo/Primal way!
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Suppose you can't blame the guides at Pompeii for adding a bit of colour to the tour. It's still made up.
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From my office cafeteria menu for the day:
[I]
Broccoli and Cheddar Quiche
With a Side
Made With Cholesterol Free Eggs
$4.75
[/I]
WTF are cholesterol free eggs? Ugg.
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[QUOTE=Karock;1062624]WTF are cholesterol free eggs? Ugg.[/QUOTE]Not real eggs.