[QUOTE=WeldingHank;1057401]I didn't realize ForgedFromFat was an MDA forum member.[/QUOTE]
He surely is. The page has been slack lately while we moved house but all back to normal now!
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[QUOTE=WeldingHank;1057401]I didn't realize ForgedFromFat was an MDA forum member.[/QUOTE]
He surely is. The page has been slack lately while we moved house but all back to normal now!
[QUOTE]noticed that she was getting her 2nd English Muffin from the toaster. Two entire english muffins. with some sort of fake spread.[/QUOTE]
I used to eat English Muffins. With fake butter and if she had the light ones, that's probably a 250 or so calorie breakfast. The regular ones, maybe 360 calories. Of course she could have had 3 eggs scrambled with some veggies in 1/2 T of real butter for about 50 more calories than two light muffins and been full til lunch.
[QUOTE=Silky;1057408]I wish this was a joke.
Device that pumps your food out of your stomach. Seriously, people are starving in the world and some scientists invent something to pour partially digested food out of your stomach into the toilet out of a new hole in your stomach.
[url=http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/254755.php]Device That Pumps Food Straight Out Of Your Stomach Invented[/url][/QUOTE]
This makes me want to cry. Or scream.
[QUOTE=Silky;1057408]I wish this was a joke.
Device that pumps your food out of your stomach. Seriously, people are starving in the world and some scientists invent something to pour partially digested food out of your stomach into the toilet out of a new hole in your stomach.
[url=http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/254755.php]Device That Pumps Food Straight Out Of Your Stomach Invented[/url][/QUOTE]
This is completely unbelievable. The video is nauseating.
[QUOTE=Silky;1057408]I wish this was a joke.
Device that pumps your food out of your stomach. Seriously, people are starving in the world and some scientists invent something to pour partially digested food out of your stomach into the toilet out of a new hole in your stomach.
[url=http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/254755.php]Device That Pumps Food Straight Out Of Your Stomach Invented[/url][/QUOTE]
This is one of those things that just baffles me. It's like having bariatric surgery. You have a potentially life threatening surgery done...to make you eat less? Why not just...eat less???? I really, really, really don't understand this. I would see a device like this as only encouraging things like bulemia.
[QUOTE=EagleRiverDee;1057705]This is one of those things that just baffles me. It's like having bariatric surgery. You have a potentially life threatening surgery done...to make you eat less? Why not just...eat less???? I really, really, really don't understand this. I would see a device like this as only encouraging things like bulemia.[/QUOTE]
That was one of the first things I thought of too, that this device could certainly encourage eating disorders. Instead of treating the underlying issues in an ED such as bulimia and helping people overcome binging/purging tendencies, we are now just essentially encouraging binging and purging behaviors with a medical stamp of approval.
You can't just eat less, because you have irrational physical urges to eat and eat and eat. It's a sign of a nutritional deficiency and physiological balance, but docs tell you it's all psychological and just to "buck up" and eat less. Having battled binge eating disorder for over a decade, even for three years eating primally, I now know how to turn the cravings on and off by what & when I eat. Eat that way, no cravings. Eat like most of the rest of y'all, cravings 24/7.
But 99.99% of those with irrational cravings will never find that magic switch; they'll just continue to be bombarded by so many, and so instense, cravings that their will power has no chance to succeed.
That's why you can't just eat less.
I had many binges where I groaned to my husband I wanted nothing more than a stomach pump. I hope people don't find out about this. Better to binge than to go that way, IMO.
[QUOTE]Why not just...eat less???? [/QUOTE]
Mama Grok, you are spot on. You can't just eat less.
If you have never just binged for no reason, I think it is hard to understand the mentaility that makes people so desperate to lose weight. For me, it is the grain/sugar combo that just use to set off crazy sugar binges. And, you bet, I could eat less (nutritious food) very easily, but always would snap and binge on sugar.
It's a crazy addiction because you "have to eat" and have no idea that the reason you eat is because a few foods trigger this out of control response. You have NO IDEA that the healthy bagel caused the bag of snickers to be eaten. Until you start choosing the "unhealthy" eggs and realize all the sudden, you don't overeat!
So you have no tools, just a doctor telling you to "eat less" of what is essentially your crack, and eventually you are willing to damage yourself to stop. Thank god for primal/paleo for some of us.
I will tell you, I am one determined little bitch when I need to be. I ground out a marathon. I quit smoking. I have a lot of discipline. I could NEVER "just eat less" when grains and sugar were part of my diet, no matter how hard I tried.
[QUOTE=magnolia1973;1058090]You have NO IDEA that the healthy bagel caused the bag of snickers to be eaten. Until you start choosing the "unhealthy" eggs and realize all the sudden, you don't overeat!
So you have no tools, just a doctor telling you to "eat less" of what is essentially your crack, and eventually you are willing to damage yourself to stop. [/QUOTE]
Truer words have never been spoken. I was amazed at how my cravings went from 100% to 10% when I dropped grains. It took me years to realize that I only binged on foods that contained grain & sugar, then more years to realize that if I dropped the grains (which I could), the sugar urges would be so much more manageable, then more years to realize that lots of breakfast protein would make the binges a month or more between, then more years to realize that massive breakfast protein would end them altogether, so long as I stay away from the grains and any sweets, and eat tons of protein in the morning.
Yeah, cravings are biochemical. No doubt about it. Mine have an on/off switch, and it saved my life to learn that.
I only hope that we can end the idea (that I myself once held) that fat people are fat (and bingers binge) b/c they're just gluttons with no self-control. ARe some? Probably. Are most? I seriously doubt it.
Saw this tonight.
[url=http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/422754/january-09-2013/thought-for-food---wheat-addictions]Thought for Food - Wheat Addictions - The Colbert Report - 2013-09-01 - Video Clip | Comedy Central[/url]