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[QUOTE=Goosejuggler;957048]Hmm. I'm quite petite (hahaha, I'm short!) and not easily stressed, so I've no idea. I guess I'll just keep LHT and eating PB and cross that bridge when I get there :)[/QUOTE]
Sounds good that you are listening to your body. I am just saying that the lady you talked to actually might something there in terms of saying how your period can disappear.
[QUOTE=Goosejuggler;957037]Really? I thought it had to be a lot lower for that to happen. Does it have anything to do with height and overall weight?[/QUOTE]
Some women it's 18%, some can get below 15% and still menstruate (but as they get below 15% most women will lose their periods). Once you get below 13% as a woman, you're getting into essential body fat range, and very few women can maintain that for long--you're talking competition day cut for a bodybuilder.
But I think the research on fertility shows that for most women, being much under 18-20% will impair one's ability to conceive. That only matters much if you're really trying hard to get preggers, though.
[QUOTE=Alex Good;957040]The real question is this: if a man got fat enough would the excess estrogen caused by said fat induce a hormonal cycle similar to that experienced by women of reproductive age?
Or, in layman's terms, could angry fat guys just be PMSing?[/QUOTE]
yes, sad but yes
My husband just started a new job yesterday and has to be out of town for the first two weeks.
I woke up to this text message "I don't know if its funny or sad when I see all these giant fat bodies carrying around huge bags of mini cupcakes" I can totally picture it...
Also, My local pharmacy now pushes candy and cookies on everyone at checkout. I'm SO OBVIOUSLY very pregnant, and I really didn't mean to glare at her when she suggested I eat a cookie. I know it's up to each of us to say no to sweets, and they are just trying to do their job and push sales... but they should really pay attention to who they are pushing that garbage on.
I read an article saying the average American throws away 4.5 lb of trash per DAY. My first thought was "how the HELL can you go through that much meat (styrofoam packing), veggies (ends and trimmings), and toilet paper?"
Then I remembered that not everyone ate like us.
[QUOTE=Owly;957192]Some women it's 18%, some can get below 15% and still menstruate (but as they get below 15% most women will lose their periods). Once you get below 13% as a woman, you're getting into essential body fat range, and very few women can maintain that for long--you're talking competition day cut for a bodybuilder.
But I think the research on fertility shows that for most women, being much under 18-20% will impair one's ability to conceive. That only matters much if you're really trying hard to get preggers, though.[/QUOTE]
Which is exactly why most body fat testing must be bunk. I had mine tested many times by many different people in many different places over about 5 years when I was in college and a bit beyond, and it always, always registered 12-13% on the calipers. Anyone could look at me and know it wasn't true. I was fit & healthy & strong, and very lean from the waist up, but had some definite thighs. The problem is, calipers don't measure where I store fat (especially top outside of thighs & rear & back of hips). So they're nonsense.
I conceived easily at that weight/bodyfat%, and when I dropped another 15lb and even more body fat a few years later, conceived easily again.
The only thing I could imagine working well would be something like water tank displacement, maybe?
[QUOTE=MamaGrok;957479]The only thing I could imagine working well would be something like water tank displacement, maybe?[/QUOTE]
Apparently even those can be quite inaccurate. Remember this post?
[url=http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-value-of-lab-values/]The Value of Lab Values | Mark's Daily Apple[/url]
I think DEXA is probably the most accurate method. Other than autoposy. Autopsy is definitely the way to go.
[QUOTE=naiadknight;957388]I read an article saying the average American throws away 4.5 lb of trash per DAY. My first thought was "how the HELL can you go through that much meat (styrofoam packing), veggies (ends and trimmings), and toilet paper?"
Then I remembered that not everyone ate like us.[/QUOTE]
You know, you bring up an interesting point. I think I easily scrape a couple pounds of organic stuff into compost a couple times a week. But veggie trimmings, rotten veggies, and other food scraps are technically a *lot* heavier than just cardboard boxes, plastic bags, and other packing material. Which makes me realize HOW MUCH PACKAGING CRAP other people must be throwing away every day to be a comparable weight.
[QUOTE=Corvidae;957522]You know, you bring up an interesting point. I think I easily scrape a couple pounds of organic stuff into compost a couple times a week. But veggie trimmings, rotten veggies, and other food scraps are technically a *lot* heavier than just cardboard boxes, plastic bags, and other packing material. Which makes me realize HOW MUCH PACKAGING CRAP other people must be throwing away every day to be a comparable weight.[/QUOTE]
You're forgetting to factor in frozen meal wrappings, aluminum cans, and tin cans.
Ate my lunch at Whole Foods today. Basically got maybe a cup of leafy greens and a pound of chicken breast, salmon, and shrimp. I sat down across from this lady who was eating a tiny container of canola oil filled tuna salad mayo and a small bagel. When I wasn't looking, she would stare at me eating my food. Sad thing is, calorically we probably ate the same amount.