[QUOTE=chumbert;939713]Yes and also pig farmers get salvage from bakeries and bagel shops and bread factories. They fatten up the hogs with BREAD. duh!?[/QUOTE]
Also very common... they have to be careful though... if they feed the hogs too high a percentage of their diet of the breads/pastries or don't at least stop the feedings and finish them for a while on grain... the fat comes out really BAD. Like soft and weird. Not firm fat like a pig should have. It can be a nearly useless carcass.
It's horrible that this stuff has been tested and written about.
I don't mind the guys who salvage and feed off/bruised/bad produce... I mean, better that it has some use.
But the "cooked" (read: mostly fried) kitchen waste and breads/pastries are too much.
They argue that salvaged bread and pastries = grain.
Girls in my college... tuttut...
One of them I overheard the other day: "If I could just live on diet coke and sushi forever, I'd be the most happiest person in the world!"
Another one in the elevator today to her friend: "Oh I'm eating chocolate wafers, thats more healthy than chocolate."
At work today, with a cake put out from a birthday yesterday: "Dont be afraid to eat the cake. It's better to eat carbs in the morning because you have all day to burn them off." The person who said this was not in good shape.
I skip breakfast and delay lunch every day as part of my IF plan. I just filled my black coffee and walked away.
Is there anything more depressing than someone drinking a can of soda and a can of "healthy" "low fat!!" soup for lunch? You know it's not going to hold them over (this guy is like 6'2" and kind of bulky even if he wasn't overweight), you know he's not really enjoying it.
I want to say something but I know it will not be met with any positive response.
Sorry that was not a funny story. I am just sad for him. And everyone.
How is a guy who is 6'2" trying to survive on coke and soup not funny?
[QUOTE=Finnegans Wake;927580]IIRC most of the studies showing correlations between sat fats and inflammation use rat studies, with the Norway rats being most likely to become obese (and suffer related health problems). There's a gargantuan leap from correlational studies with rats to causal certitude in humans, and I also seem to recall detailed breakdown of the fats indicating possible confounds (presence of trans-fats, higher levels of sat fats AND carbohydrates).
What interests me is that diets high in omega-6 are inflammatory and inflammation can lead to insulin resistance. Of course, most omega-6 in the SAD is being delivered alongside a heady overdose of processed food carbohydrate, but it seems to me CW has it bass-ackwards to say sat fats are the devil, tra la la, let's substitute some healthy vegetable oil or canola oil. Barf.[/QUOTE]
Denise Minger did a great analysis of the study you are talking about [URL="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/does-a-high-fat-diet-cause-type-2-diabetes/#axzz250E1rZoa"]here on MDA[/URL]. The high fat rats were fed a completely manufactured diet high in hydrogenated coconut oils, sugar, corn starch, casein.
Hard to believe it wasn't a set up from the start.
Was at the TMobile store the other day, and the guy behind the counter (who is very obese) says:
"Yeah I've been getting back to working out and eating healthy. I've been eating tons of Subway--I can't believe I haven't had any junk food in 5 days! It's so hard!"
If my mom hadn't been there with me I would've said something to him...not in a rude way, he's kind of a friend of ours, but keeping quiet doesn't help anybody. Poor guy, can't imagine how difficult it would be for him to "not eat junk food" if he realized that Subway was junk too!
A colleague of mine didn't know what a cucumber was....! I still can't get over that one!
I have some new business associates who give me the stinkeye when they want to go to lunch, and I say "Ok, but no fast food or Subway"
Unfortunately she probably got that from this article:
[url=http://www.myhealthnewsdaily.com/2230-cake-breakfast-sweets-diet.html]Cake for Breakfast? Study Says Go for It | Weight Loss | MyHealthNewsDaily.com[/url]
I just saw it yesterday. :facepalm: