[QUOTE=Dirlot;901031]OMFG did you even read what I wrote....I said throw in the population and crank the number ffs... or are you going to make up something else I have said [/QUOTE]
I missed the crank the numbers part. Though I would tend to take statistics as to what the French or Italian diet has been over the last few decades as their past and current health statistics have less to do with what they are consuming today, what they have consumed over the last 40 years is more relevant to the research done on their health status. A report from the FAO in the has wheat consumption of both countries much higher than the US per capita. Higher in Italy and much higher and France.[url=http://www.fao.org/docrep/006/y4011e/y4011e04.htm]Wheat in the world - B.C. Curtis[/url]
Btw, you're hardly one to be castrating other for mis-reading things.
[QUOTE=Dirlot;901031]You want to eat crap and go through yo-yo fat gains go for it. You want to eat grains and have yo-yo fat gains (which your post seem to indicate you do) go for it, You want to believe wheat is good for you go for. You want to eat wheat go for it but ffs if you are going to respond 3x and misquote me 3x then ...well that says it all. You dont want to eat primal go for it.
I do eat primal and I eat very little crap food. I hardly call maintaining between 8% - 10% bf "yo-yo fat gains"
[QUOTE=Dirlot;901031]Wheat does not affect me but I am here to eat clean and enjoy life...you want to ignore the studies that show how bad gluten is then hold hands with jim and have fun....cause neither you nor him have posted a single study to show that grains are good for you.
I don't have dogmatic black and white views on foods like grains like you seem to hold by labeling them "poison". Very few foods besides the obvious can be put into a "good" or "bad" category. I at least try to approach things with an open mind and acknowledge things like context, dosage and individuality.
You are the one who quoted asian diet as a low fat one, funny how you backtrack.[/QUOTE]
huh? Asia is a continent made up of dozens of different countries and cultures, you can't lump them in one category. Many Asian countries like I said, subsist on low fat diets and are in fantastic health. You seem to be unwilling to concede this for some reason.