Coffee is a processed food.
Caffeine is a psychoactive drug with metabolic consequences.
It simply has no place in a "primal" diet.
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Coffee is a processed food.
Caffeine is a psychoactive drug with metabolic consequences.
It simply has no place in a "primal" diet.
[QUOTE=DeeDub;950296]Coffee is a processed food.
Caffeine is a psychoactive drug with metabolic consequences.
It simply has no place in a "primal" diet.[/QUOTE]
You should probably get a message to Mark Sisson about that ASAP!
He drinks coffee you know.
And while you're at it with your "psychoactive" drugs... don't drink tea or eat chocolate either, or have an occasional alcoholic beverage (also approved "Primal" foods). :rolleyes:
I know how you feel. I don't drink a lot of coffee--two cups a day, max (or one double-shot espresso drink). But I am a wreck without it. Cranky to the point of nasty. That makes me think I should at least try to give it up, just to see how I feel. And then to see how I feel when I reintroduce it. But man, I love my cup of coffee. I think it might just have to be one of my sensible vices.
I drink a couple cups a day, but I actually feel quite good when I abstain for a while. The thing is I just really really like it......what a dilemma.
this saturday (9/15), will make 1 month absolutely caffeine free for me! i never thought that would be the case... amazing. i scoffed at the idea for so long, but honestly, it's great. mind you, my habit was out of control, i'm sure you can use caffeine more responsibly, but for me, it's been simply fantastic cutting it out - even energy levels throughout the day, never groggy when i wake up, power naps are easy.
horrible, terrible headaches for three days though on the front end...
*edited to note that my avatar pic still shows me holding a cup of coffee. LOLZ.
[quote=deedub;950296]coffee is a processed food.
Caffeine is a psychoactive drug with metabolic consequences.
It simply has no place in a "primal" diet.[/quote]
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[QUOTE=TheFastCat;950254][URL="http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread24238.html"]caffeine/coffee addiction and you[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DeeDub;950296]Coffee is a processed food.
Caffeine is a psychoactive drug with metabolic consequences.
It simply has no place in a "primal" diet.[/QUOTE]TFC and I both agree with you but have found it to be a VERY hard sell around here.
[QUOTE=jakey;950349]this saturday (9/15), will make 1 month absolutely caffeine free for me! i never thought that would be the case... amazing. i scoffed at the idea for so long, but honestly, it's great. mind you, my habit was out of control, i'm sure you can use caffeine more responsibly, but for me, it's been simply fantastic cutting it out - even energy levels throughout the day, never groggy when i wake up, power naps are easy.
horrible, terrible headaches for three days though on the front end...
*edited to note that my avatar pic still shows me holding a cup of coffee. LOLZ.[/QUOTE]No wonder you've been so cranky lately. :p
[QUOTE=cori93437;950334]You should probably get a message to Mark Sisson about that ASAP!
He drinks coffee you know.
And while you're at it with your "psychoactive" drugs... don't drink tea or eat chocolate either, or have an occasional alcoholic beverage (also approved "Primal" foods). :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]Mark specifically says that coffee is OK as long as it does not become an energy crutch. How many of the coffee drinkers around here can honestly say they don't use their joe for energy?
Energy should come from a good nights sleep and good primal food.
I would say the test is to see if you can go 48 hours caffeine free with no headaches, tiredness, crankiness, etc. If so, carry on, it's just a beverage. But, be honest, if you *need* it in the morning, it's probably messing with your whole body in ways that are going to come back to bite you eventually.
I agree...
I drink one cup, 5-6 days a week.
Some special occasions I might have a couple of cups of really good fresh espresso... Like when I'm AT the small company that roasts my beans on premises.
But I don't feel like I need it to function on days I don't drink it.
Or that I get a huge energy burst from it.
I just really, really, really love the taste of it.
And, honestly...
It's the LAST [B][I][U]yummy treat[/U][/I][/B] acceptable thing I have. LOL.
Since I can't have chocolate anymore.
It's like the cigar thread.
You use thing as a pleasurable enjoyment, DON'T let it use you.
Same with Tea, Chocolate and Chocolate DRINKS,and Alcohol. ;)
(None of which I'm able to indulge in you know.)
[QUOTE=jakey;950349]this saturday (9/15), will make 1 month absolutely caffeine free for me! i never thought that would be the case... amazing. i scoffed at the idea for so long, but honestly, it's great. mind you, my habit was out of control, i'm sure you can use caffeine more responsibly, but for me, it's been simply fantastic cutting it out - even energy levels throughout the day, never groggy when i wake up, power naps are easy.
horrible, terrible headaches for three days though on the front end...
*edited to note that my avatar pic still shows me holding a cup of coffee. LOLZ.[/QUOTE]
Congrats dude....and yeah, might gotta change your avitar. You got that "yeaaaah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and move your desk into the basement....yeaaaaah" look :)
[QUOTE=Neckhammer;950537]Congrats dude....and yeah, might gotta change your avitar. You got that "yeaaaah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and move your desk into the basement....yeaaaaah" look :)[/QUOTE]Yeah, Jakey you've got that, "Just try to take this coffee away from me. I dare ya." look.