[QUOTE=Grumpy Caveman;694144]I have noticed that men are speaking a lot more like women, with drawn-out vowel sounds and rising intonations at the ends of statements.[/QUOTE]
brilliant.
every man would be wise to reflect on this.
Printable View
[QUOTE=Grumpy Caveman;694144]I have noticed that men are speaking a lot more like women, with drawn-out vowel sounds and rising intonations at the ends of statements.[/QUOTE]
brilliant.
every man would be wise to reflect on this.
[QUOTE=hazyjane;694154]That's likely because speech trends like accents start with young women (think Valley Girls;)). I remember reading or watching something on this- they traced different regional accents and young women were largely the instigators of accent trends, including the typical Brooklyn accent.[/QUOTE]
no, you're missing it.
you have to ask what kind of attitude originates the rising intonation. then think about this atitude.
this is one side of the coin i threw on the table earlier in this thread, which is that whether a male is a man is determined by how he sees the world.
a man never sees a 'problem' in the negative sense, only a circumstance requiring some resolution, and he seamlessly moves between recognizing the 'problem' to resolving it. any hesitiation between these two states takes the male away from the Man.
a man understands that it is more important to make a decision than it is to make the 'right' one.
I think men are confused.... you hear that women want sensitive men, but I dunno, I want a leader and more aggressive man who kind of tells me what to do. Yet I see so many couples where the men are basically pussy whipped wimps whose wives walk all over them. That's not sexy.... And yeah, a lot of men look very soft and feminine these days- not clothes- but appearances. I do wonder about hormones when I see some guys.
The other thing I think now- reproductively speaking is that women want passive men who will stick around and make money, so are choosing them as mates vs. the hot guy who is probably a jerk, but damn. Like the hottest guys I know- the full on masculine alpha males - I would not want a child with them- not because they are mean, but because they are unreliable. Meanwhile, a lot of my friends spouses who are unattractive, very feminine are reliable with great jobs and the patience of Job.
[QUOTE]a man understands that it is more important to make a decision than it is to make the 'right' one. [/QUOTE]
Yup...
[QUOTE=magnolia1973;694197]I think men are confused.... you hear that women want sensitive men, but I dunno, I want a leader and more aggressive man who kind of tells me what to do. Yet I see so many couples where the men are basically pussy whipped wimps whose wives walk all over them. That's not sexy.... And yeah, a lot of men look very soft and feminine these days- not clothes- but appearances. I do wonder about hormones when I see some guys.
The other thing I think now- reproductively speaking is that women want passive men who will stick around and make money, so are choosing them as mates vs. the hot guy who is probably a jerk, but damn. Like the hottest guys I know- the full on masculine alpha males - I would not want a child with them- not because they are mean, but because they are unreliable. Meanwhile, a lot of my friends spouses who are unattractive, very feminine are reliable with great jobs and the patience of Job.[/QUOTE]
I guess using the pants thing kinda set people in the other direction... But you're right, I think that most women want what you want, even if they won't say it outright.
[QUOTE=ChefGrok;694207][B]I guess[/B] using the pants thing kinda set people in the other direction... But you're right, [B]I think [/B]that most women want what you want, even if they won't say it outright.[/QUOTE]
a man does not 'guess' nor 'think'; he knows and tells.
[QUOTE=dado;694213]a man does not 'guess' nor 'think'; he knows and tells.[/QUOTE]
I'm being serious, is there anyone other than yourself that you consider to be a man. Is this something that can be assessed by someone else? Or is it strictly something that is self-realized?
[QUOTE=dado;694213]a man does not 'guess' nor 'think'; he knows and tells.[/QUOTE]
For me, a real man [I]doesn't speak [/I]when he [I]doesn't know[/I].
Because no one knows everything, and a good leader understands that.