[QUOTE=Grok;963988]Plato believed that all knowledge is innate and that learning was simply bringing this knowledge out from within your soul.
So like when you learn something and you know it to be true, it is because you already knew the truth since birth and you are just now discovering it within you.
Everyone, according to Plato, has perfect knowledge, and learning is simply having that knowledge "recalled".[/QUOTE]
Well teaching back then was basically helping a student reach the conclusions on their own so he's not wrong, in a manner of speaking. It wasn't like the indoctrination that ruins so many young minds these days.
Or at least it seems that way from what I've read.
[QUOTE=cori93437;963956]LOL... I should have said "young, scrawny, unkempt, sort of unwashed looking dudes" as it was a reference to how Wilton used to look in his avatar pic. ;)
You, however, are stellar... and you know it! *remembers librarian photo ~sigh~*[/QUOTE]
;) j/k. I recently bought some deodorant; I mean "real" stuff with aluminum-shit in it. I've tried every natural type under the sun and still stink so decided just to take my chances with alzheimer's.
I *want* to be attracted to Dr. Frank-n-Furter, but I just can't get past the delusional diva aspect. Eddie Izzard, OTOH is pretty awesome and I probably wouldn't kick him out of bed (or off the couch, kitchen floor, whatever).
Oh, Dr. Frank (the char) is way over the top to be sure... but to me it's in a wink and nudge fashion instead of full on "real diva", which I wouldn't like.
Eddie Izzard is just too awesome for words... in ladies clothing or in his male gendered get ups... funny, intelligent, seems to be really honest about who he is, and HAWT! :o
i'm going to go against the flow and say that eddie izzard in drag doesn't do it for me
but frank n furter.... MMMNG
Well, while we're at it I might as well pull out the James Franco to drool over again... :cool:
Yep, I never really thought he was HOT until I saw THIS pic... *sigh*
[QUOTE=Grok;963973]Plato thought that there was some external higher truth which you could not prove.
Is it truth that there is a God even though I cannot prove it to you?
Truth is only what I can prove to be true.
It may be true that I dreamed of Jeannie last night, but there is no way I could prove that to you. So in terms of philosophy, the statement, "I dreamed of Jeannie" is neither true, nor false, but simply a statement.[/QUOTE]
Wtf does this have to do with allegory of the cave?
[QUOTE=wiltondeportes;963984]Yup, good point on the allegory. Any other good Greek/Roman to read without learning Latin? Any other recommended reading?[/QUOTE]
Yes, shall post some later
Read cicero's de legibus
[QUOTE=kenn;964059]Wtf does this have to do with allegory of the cave?[/QUOTE]
Plato believed that there was a higher truth, one that could not be seen or proven.
[QUOTE=Grok;964073]Plato believed that there was a higher truth, one that could not be seen or proven.[/QUOTE]
You missed the point of referencing the allegory in this thread