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  • #16
    Paleobird,
    Your article is grossly mistaken:
    "The alkaline diet is a relatively new diet fad, based on the notion that it's possible to alter your blood pH through a change in diet to make it more alkaline, receiving numerous health benefits." Your article is all wrong. You can find any number of false articles on the internet and this is one of them.

    As I said earlier, it is not possible to alter the blood PH. That is tightly controlled by our metabolism. We are monitoring our urine & saliva PH NOT the blood PH. We are optimizing diet by monitoring the urine & saliva PH numbers.
    pH Food Chart

    Grizz
    Last edited by Grizz; 08-10-2013, 12:12 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Grizz View Post
      Paleobird,
      Your article is grossly mistaken:
      "The alkaline diet is a relatively new diet fad, based on the notion that it's possible to alter your blood pH through a change in diet to make it more alkaline, receiving numerous health benefits." Your article is all wrong. You can find any number of false articles on the internet and this is one of them.

      As I said earlier, it is not possible to alter the blood PH. That is tightly controlled by our metabolism. We are monitoring our urine & saliva PH NOT the blood PH. We are optimizing diet by monitoring the urine & saliva PH numbers.
      pH Food Chart

      Grizz
      But your urine and saliva Ph are irrelevant to anything remotely connected to your health. Sorry to ruin your new "cause" but it just doesn't work that way.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
        But your urine and saliva Ph are irrelevant to anything remotely connected to your health. Sorry to ruin your new "cause" but it just doesn't work that way.
        Once again you are sadly mistaken...
        Your saliva pH is another important indicator of health and wellness.
        When you test both your saliva and urine pH, you get a more thorough picture of what is going on with your body pH levels.
        Your saliva lets you know the level of your mineral reserves available to your body.
        Remember, our bodies are constantly trying to rid themselves of excess acids created by our cells doing their daily jobs.
        We can overwhelm this process by eating poorly and getting little or no exercise - which creates even more acids.

        These acids, if allowed to build up, irritate our tissues and steal minerals from them (as well as our teeth and bones). For more info, go to acidosis.

        Your saliva pH readings
        Healthy saliva should be between 7.0 and 7.5 on the pH scale.
        If you get a reading in this range, it means that you have a good pH balance and plenty of mineral reserves. No modifications in your diet are necessary.

        Readings of 6.25 to 6.75 mean that the body is slightly more acidic that it should be. Shifting your diet a little toward more alkaline forming foods will bring your pH back to where it needs to be.

        Readings lower than 6.25 indicate severe acidity and very low mineral reserves. Your body is struggling with an acidic, toxic internal environment and your organs are under a lot of stress.

        To correct this extreme imbalance, you will need to shift your diet away acid forming foods. You never want to eliminate these foods (you need the protein and fat), but do limit them (especially processed foods).

        Once again, eating lots more raw fruits and vegetables and drinking plenty of pure water is incredibly important when trying to achieve body pH balance.
        Always remember to test your saliva before a meal or at least 30 minutes after one.
        Your Body's Saliva pH
        Grizz

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        • #19
          Dr. Brownstein Report on PH

          Dr. Brownstein Discusses Acidity and alkalinity

          The pH of the body is a measure of the acidity or alkalinity of the body on a scale from 0 to 14 respectively. In an acidic body the pH is lowered, while in an alkaline body, the pH is elevated. In a diseased state, the body can be either too acidic or too alkaline. The body has many overlapping mechanisms designed to keep the pH of the body in a neutral state – around a pH of 7.2. When the pH of the body becomes either too acidic or too alkaline, normal physiologic functions decline. The organs of the body (kidneys, liver, brain, etc) do not function efficiently unless the pH of the body is neutral (7.2); the brain does not function well when the body is either acid or alkaline. Enzymes, the catalysts for the body, are very sensitive to pH changes and will lose most of their function when the pH is altered. Enzymes can become deactivated with either an acidic or an alkaline pH. Immune system cells are unable to protect us when the pH is imbalanced. In fact, no part of the body will work efficiently if the pH is not properly balanced. An acidic pH is associated with many chronic illnesses including cancer, arthritis, osteoporosis and candida, as well as hormonal imbalances. Majid Ali, one of holistic medicine’s foremost practitioners, has stated, ‘An acidic pH is a marker of the absence of health in the body’. 8 In a diseased state an acidic pH is more common than an alkaline one and, generally, the more ill one is, the more acidic one’s body.

          Food affects pH
          The food one eats can have a dramatic effect on pH. In nearly every case refined foods, devitalized of all the healthy vitamins, minerals and enzymes, acidify the body. Minerals are one of the most alkalinizing agents for the body but, due to poor diets full of refined foods, many people today are mineral deficient, which is often associated with a lowered pH (<7.0). Refined salt contains no minerals, while unrefined salt is loaded with them. It does not take much to realize that unrefined salt will thus promote a healthy pH whereas refined salt will act against it by increasing acidity. In fact, all refined foods (including refined sugar, flour, oils,etc) lack minerals, vitamins and enzymes. When we eat these devitalized foods, our body has to use its own store of vitamins, minerals and enzymes to break down food. Over time this leads to nutrient deficiencies and chronic illness. Furthermore,eating devitalized food leads to acidity in the body. Thus, due to the prevalence of refined food, it is no wonder that most people run on the acidic side. My experience has shown that it is impossible to overcome chronic illness when there is an acidic condition present. Cancer and chronic illness are two of the consequences of an acidic pH. Cancer cells will proliferate in an acidic environment. In fact, most chronic illnesses will occur in an acidic environment.

          It is very difficult to overcome any chronic illness if the pH of the body is acidic (ie. pH<7.2). In an experiment at home (performed by my daughterJessi ), one teaspoon of Celtic Sea Salt in cup of filtered water increased the pH of the water from 6.4 (baseline) to 6.8–7.0. The same amount of refined salt, on the other hand, decreased the pH from 6.4 to 6.0 Refined salt, lacking the buffering effect of the minerals, is an acidifying substance for the body. On the other hand, unrefined salt helps to maintain a more neutral pH and can actually help elevate an acidic pH (see box). In order to promote a more neutral pH, unrefined salt needs to be the salt of choice; refined salt should be avoided at all costs. Finally, adding iodine supplementation to unrefined salt has a further alkalinizing effect.

          Fruits and [uncooked] vegetables rich in vitamin C support your body’s natural, slightly alkaline pH by contributing alkalizing substances when digested. Some of the foods highest in vitamin C -- including cantaloupe melon, watermelon, kiwi fruit, citrus fruits, mango, papaya, strawberries, broccoli, parsley, bell peppers, cabbage, sweet potatoes and winter squash -- are among the top most alkaline-forming foods.
          Read more: Does Vitamin C Make The Body More Acidic? | LIVESTRONG.COM
          Best to all,
          Grizz

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          • #20
            You're against this Paleobird? Then why did you link that ridiculous article about milk?
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
              You're against this Paleobird? Then why did you link that ridiculous article about milk?
              Actually that was a slip of the mouse. I meant to link another article that was right next to it in the google search list. I didn't realize it until morning. We shouldn't stay up posting so late.

              No, we totally agree that this whole Ph thing is silly and mostly propagated by vegans trying to tell you about the acidic evils of meat.

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              • #22
                Thanks for chiming in PB!

                Grizz, I love that you champion Vitamin D3, however, this pH thing is really a waste of your time.
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                • #23
                  The last time I had urine/blood tests my PH came in as 5 and I had ketones in urine also. ( eventhough I eat lots of carbs)

                  I am a bit scared of messing with iodine as I have multinodular goiters on the thyroid, I certainly don't want to make things worse.

                  I did ask the Doc about PH, he told me that it was quite variable from one test to another, and that the body will regulate it as needed.

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                  • #24
                    I've never understood this whole thing. Your stomach acid pH is more acidic than any food, and it's the minerals that are alkalizing, so, how could a particular food rich in these minerals be acidic, and harmful, for example dairy. Especially when these vegans promote foods high in acidic nutrients like phosphorus, or insanely hard to digest ones like raw greens. Seems like propaganda to me, and based on a guess.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Dragonfly View Post
                      Thanks for chiming in PB!

                      Grizz, I love that you champion Vitamin D3, however, this pH thing is really a waste of your time.
                      Dragonfly,

                      Thank you for your concern, but I am not wasting my time. Did you notice the post I made about the honorable Dr. Brownstein supporting PH? Dr. Brownstein is famous world wide and he cannot be dismissed. Please read his message here.
                      http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1277709

                      I have done all of my homework on this subject and I support Dr. Brownstein. He is 100% correct.

                      PaleoBird also fought iodine tooth & nail, but yet people in my little community have cured their serious health problems with the Dr. Brownstein Iodine Protocol:
                      The iodine Thread!!! - Page 73
                      Author Lynne Farrow documents how iodine cured her breast cancer & several other health problems in her book, "The Iodine Crisis: What You Don't Know About Iodine Can Wreck Your Life"

                      It is Paleobird who wasting her time trying to fight against this thread and the honorable Dr. Brownstein.

                      Grizz
                      Last edited by Grizz; 08-10-2013, 04:41 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Derpamix View Post
                        I've never understood this whole thing. Your stomach acid pH is more acidic than any food, and it's the minerals that are alkalizing, so, how could a particular food rich in these minerals be acidic, and harmful, for example dairy. Especially when these vegans promote foods high in acidic nutrients like phosphorus, or insanely hard to digest ones like raw greens. Seems like propaganda to me, and based on a guess.
                        Derpamix,
                        That is why we are into this thread, to learn why measuring PH works. I can't blame Vegans for this. The world famous Dr. Brownstein explains it in my previous post and he is not a vegan. He promotes the Paleo Diet.

                        Grizz

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                        • #27
                          Well, most of the foods you recommend are vegan propaganda and it doesn't show how cow's milk is acidifying considering it contains all of alkalizing minerals, and an abundance of calcium with an ideal ratio of calcium to phosphorus.

                          Another thing, different parts of your body require different levels of pH, it seems strange to try to make yourself 'more alkaline' because you'd just be counter balancing another part of the body. pH can fluctuate throughout the day at different levels in different areas of the body. Your stomach is so acidic that you can't even significantly change the acidity of your stomach, much less your blood. It's what helps you to break down food anyway. Besides that, some foods that are claimed to be acidic, leave an alkaline ash after digestion, so what's the deal here?

                          One thing I've noticed being touted is that cancer cells can't live in an alkaline environment, but, neither can any other cell.
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                          • #28
                            12.5mg of iodine, really? This should be criminal.

                            Thyroglobulin Is a Sensitive Measure of Both Deficient and Excess Iodine Intakes in Children and Indicates No Adverse Effects on Thyroid Function in the UIC Range of 100
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                            • #29
                              Yeah, it does go beyond the realm of the ridiculous into the realm of medically dangerous.

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                              • #30
                                Grizz, I'll add to the chorus. This is utter nonsense. Given that blood pH is stable, as you've agreed above, there can be no pH effect on the organs. Urine pH only varies because the body is balancing blood pH. Brownstein appears to be quack. If you are convinced otherwise, perhaps you can provide some links to peer reviewed publications where this is discussed
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