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  • Paleo Vs. Vegan ... Article in Experience Life Magazine

    Got the May 2012 issue of Experience Life Magazine in the mail today which contains this article:
    Paleo Vs. Vegan : Experience Life Magazine

    In addition, online they have podcast interviews with Robb Wolf, Brendan Brazier, and Frank Lipman MD:
    Paleo Vs. Vegan: Podcast : Experience Life Magazine

    Overall, it seems to be a fair article... anyway, enjoy.
    Jen, former Midwesterner, living in the middle of nowhere.

  • #2
    very interesting! I'm going through it now.

    lol @ this:

    VEGAN: Kris Carr

    “For breakfast, I have many options: organic vegetable juice or a green smoothie, seed pancakes, tofu scramble, sprouted-grain bread (or gluten-free bread) with almond butter or avocado, or millet porridge with peaches..."

    UMMM...yuck. (minues the juice/smoothies)

    ETA:

    A very good read! Generally, I enjoy reading articles over listening to a podcast (visual type ), not sure if I'll check out the podcast or not, is it basically the quotes from the article?
    Last edited by JennaRose; 04-19-2012, 01:26 PM.

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    • #3
      Tofu. Scramble.

      those two words together sound barfariffic.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Catherine View Post
        Tofu. Scramble.

        those two words together sound barfariffic.
        lmao! even when I was a veg*n I never touched that crap. ooo tofu scramble, its just like eggs! YEAH NO, IT LOOKS GROSS

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        • #5
          Eh. You throw enough spices on it, it's edible. The one Isa Chandra Moskowitz makes isn't bad.

          I have never been a huge fan of scrambled eggs, but I could eat scrambled tofu. I don't now, of course, and haven't in about two years, but I actually kind of liked it. Don't be hatin' my former vegan self.
          Steph
          My Primal Meanderings

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          • #6
            My standard breakfast used to be 1 egg scrambled w/a couple ounces of diced tofu and any of a variety of spice blends plus a piece of sprouted grain bread w/butter and a little jam. It was quite tasty, I thought. Then I found Primal/Paleo and that changed, of course.

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            • #7
              I only like tofu prepared in a specific manner. I've yet to try tempeh, but I've heard it's a "safer," "healthier" version of tofu. The only way I'd eat tofu en mass . I'll think of ways to "primalize" it.

              As far as the article, I appreciate how it tries to keep things in perspective, at least to me. It provides one side, then the other; topping it off with the moderator's position.
              If you have a problem with what you read: 1. Get a dictionary 2. Don't read it 3. Grow up 4. After 3, go back to 1/ or 2. -- Dennis Blue. | "I don't care about your opinion, only your analysis"- Professor Calabrese. | "Life is more important than _______" - Drew | I eat animals that eat vegetables -- Matt Millen, former NFL Linebacker. | "This country is built on sugar & shit that comes in a box marinated in gluten - abc123

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              • #8
                Originally posted by lssanjose View Post
                I only like tofu prepared in a specific manner. I've yet to try tempeh, but I've heard it's a "safer," "healthier" version of tofu. The only way I'd eat tofu en mass . I'll think of ways to "primalize" it.

                As far as the article, I appreciate how it tries to keep things in perspective, at least to me. It provides one side, then the other; topping it off with the moderator's position.
                I have never met a tempeh I liked unless it was fried to death and covered in sauce. In which case -- what's the point?

                I tried marinating, steaming, baking it. It never turned out right. I tried tempeh so hard, you guys. At least tofu I could cut in cubes and bake until crispy and then cover in sauce and...wait. I'm noticing a theme here.

                That said, if I'm ever in Indonesia I'd give tempeh another go. I hear the stuff we get in the Americas is pretty awful compared to the original, genuine article.
                Steph
                My Primal Meanderings

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                • #9
                  My vegan years were quite dark.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by onalark View Post
                    I have never met a tempeh I liked unless it was fried to death and covered in sauce. In which case -- what's the point?

                    I tried marinating, steaming, baking it. It never turned out right. I tried tempeh so hard, you guys. At least tofu I could cut in cubes and bake until crispy and then cover in sauce and...wait. I'm noticing a theme here.

                    That said, if I'm ever in Indonesia I'd give tempeh another go. I hear the stuff we get in the Americas is pretty awful compared to the original, genuine article.
                    I'll have to check the Asian market, some time, as well. Maybe, I'll find a gem. But, personally, I'm not big on tofu, anyways. What clinched it was the estrogen content (or so I've heard...), which was another reason I stopped my random servings of soy milk......
                    If you have a problem with what you read: 1. Get a dictionary 2. Don't read it 3. Grow up 4. After 3, go back to 1/ or 2. -- Dennis Blue. | "I don't care about your opinion, only your analysis"- Professor Calabrese. | "Life is more important than _______" - Drew | I eat animals that eat vegetables -- Matt Millen, former NFL Linebacker. | "This country is built on sugar & shit that comes in a box marinated in gluten - abc123

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                    • #11
                      I like the former vegan blogs myself & think vegan babies has to be one of the saddest things in the world- they always have such dead looking eyes.

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                      • #12
                        Once, when I was 6, I nearly tried tofu. Thankfully my mother refused to buy it.
                        In all of the universe there is only one person with your exact charateristics. Just like there is only one person with everybody else's characteristics. Effectively, your uniqueness makes you pretty average.

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                        • #13
                          For breakfast this morning, I had two scrambled eggs and about 1/5th of a pound of locally sourced preservative-free sausage. I frown upon your vegan breakfast.

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                          • #14
                            yeah. I read that article as well. Maybe it's because I'm already biased towards Paleo, but it seemed like Paleo clearly had a lot more advantages than Veganism.
                            Starting Weight: 165
                            Current Weight: 155
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                            • #15
                              John McDougall — “Cereal grains are currently the most important nutritional component of the human diet — and for more than 10,000 years, grains have been recognized as staples and were once extolled as ‘the staff of life.’ The most important support for my conclusion that we are close to vegan, primarily starch-eaters is based on an observation that you can easily validate for yourself: All large populations of trim, healthy people throughout written human history have obtained the bulk of their calories from starch.Examples of thriving people now and in the past include Japanese and Chinese in Asia eating rice, buckwheat and sweet potatoes; Mayans and Aztecs in Central America who ate corn; and Egyptians in the Middle East who once thrived on wheat.”

                              Good God, there are so many flaws with this argument. Grains have been recognized as staples for the last 10,000 years? What about the roughly 2 million years of human evolution and history before that? Trim, healthy people getting the bulk of their calories from starch? I'd be willing to bet that they were trim because they had very active lifestyles from farming and hunting. As far as them being "healthy", why is it that prehistoric hunter-gatherers were extremely fit with strong muscles and bones, while Neolithic farmers became shorter, weaker, and sicklier in comparison?
                              "Don't waste your time, or time will waste you."

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