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    I hope I chose the right forum for posting this.

    Both Stephan at Whole Health blog and Richard at Freetheanimal have posted regarding Paleo/PB, Weston Price and oral health.

    In fact, Richard recounted a story about his recent dentist visit where he revealed *gasp* he doesn't brush daily!!

    I was wondering if any other PBers or Paleo's had similar stories or insights into their own oral health since going Primal. Tarlach is probably our most out-spoke and hardcore Paleo guy. I'd love to hear any oral health findings he's had.

    My reason for posting this is recently my gums have become inflammed again This was a huge problem last year for me but since adopting primal eating habits it's been relatively nil. I've had two episodes where I totally fell off the PB wagon but the recent one was Memorial Day weekend and this is just now manifesting.


    All comments and stories welcome.


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    I'm interested in other people's stories too...


    just wanted to say that this post reminded me of this shirt:

    http://www.threadless.com/product/1770/No_Sweets

    I might order it. I think it's awesome.

    Eating lots but still hungry? Eat more fat. Mid-day sluggishness? Eat more fat. Feeling depressed or irritable? Eat more fat. People think you've developed an eating disorder? Eat more fat... in front of them.

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      I do peroxide and baking soda. I'm allergic to artificial sugar, so that rules out pretty much all toothpaste except like Tom's of Maine or other similar products... and I find them to not work very well. The only downsides to peroxide-baking soda is the extremely salty flavor (I know it's sodium bicarbonate, so it makes sense) and the whole making sure not to swallow any... but my teeth have never been cleaner, and if I am not in a place to brush on a 12 or 24 hour basis, I don't feel like I'm coughing up poison clouds. I don't know how primal it is, but it works

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        http://tarablogsabouteverything.blogspot.com/2008/11/homemade-toothpaste.html


        Sometimes I do homemade, sometimes I do Toms fennel w/o fluoride.

        Life on Earth may be punishing, but it includes an annual free trip around the sun!

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          Honestly, it's all about the mechanical scrubbing action dislodging the bugs 'n crud. You could brush with water and be fine. Toothpaste does have a slight abrasiveness and a pleasant taste but it's optional. The brush is the important part. It doesn't have to be a fancy brush, though. Just one with soft bristles (don't want your gums to recede with too much pressure or scrub away enamel). Angle toward the gum line. Circular motion. Not too hard. And floss. Definitely floss. (I used to work for a dentist. That doesn't make me an expert, of course. But i can recite his shtik in my sleep.) Oh and i love that Tom's fennel flavor, too. Great for anyone who wants the taste of black licorice without eating candy.

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            Wow Tara that's make your own toothpaste is pretty darn cool. Where the heck do you get prickly ash bark and Al3+ free baking soda?

            I might adopt this for a while since my dental insurance in non-existent for a few more months. See what happens at my next visit

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              Anna- both at the health food store for me!

              Life on Earth may be punishing, but it includes an annual free trip around the sun!

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                I think vit D and vit K are essential for oral health -- and everything else health too.

                It's grandma, but you can call me sir.

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                  Heck yeah sir grandma! I take high D and eat natto for the K

                  Life on Earth may be punishing, but it includes an annual free trip around the sun!

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                    Tara, I haven't been able to find natto -- is it as gross as people say (I guess you're not the one to ask since you seem to eat a lot of it LOL) I go the aged cheese route -- stinkier the better LOL.

                    It's grandma, but you can call me sir.

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                      Haha...


                      Natto is an acquired thing, sort of like marmite is. Not flavorwise mind you, but acquiredness wise (worst grammar ever!). For example, marmite is very wierd at first, but maybe the 2nd or 3rd time you try in you decide it delicious. Such is the story with natto.


                      It def has a strong umami taste, but I LOVE it.

                      Life on Earth may be punishing, but it includes an annual free trip around the sun!

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                        lately ive been really digging a company called Peelu. I tried some of their dental gum the other day as an attempt to ward off sugar cravings (low and behold, it contains Sorbitol, which if you eat too much will give you the shits... yeah, they dont warn you about that on the package). One thing I noticed was a remarkable difference in the color of my teeth, just from one full package of this stuff (dont, btw, eat a whole package in a day). I though, there has to be a better way to utilize - and there is! Peelu makes a non-sweetened (no Sorbitol, thank goodness), no harsh abrasives, toothpaste with the same arak (or miswak) fibers as their gum. Native peoples across India, Asia and Africa apparently chew these fibers like we brush our teeth with chemical mush in a tube. There is a really interesting Wiki on this plant:


                        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miswak


                        I just ordered a couple tubes of the cinnamon flavored stuff as I read some reviews that said the minty varieties are not quite as palatable. Really excited to try something new!


                        I never thought much about the abrasives in toothpaste before, but it makes sense - if you are not eating sugar/carbs, there is no need for sandpaper-paste to remove the small amount of plaque that builds up each day.

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                          btw, for all you Tom's of Maine fans (not to burst your bubble or anything), check this out:


                          boston.com/business/articles/2006/03/22/colgate_will_buy_toms_of_maine/


                          Colgate, of all companies!!


                          also, the sodium laureth sulfate in their stuff scares the s**t out of me... so much for being green.

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                            I've been using a homemade tooth powder of baking soda with sweet orange, cinnamon and tea tree EOs added, for about a year and a half now. I have full approval of my dentist, he is thrilled with the condition of my teeth and gums, and it makes the cleanings so simple too!


                            DH has started using it too and his teeth are remarkably whiter (he's a smoker) than when he was using a whitening commercial toothpaste.

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                              Marika, do you make up a batch, or just put a drop of each oil on a spoonful of baking soda every time you brush? Do you have specific proportions? This sounds like a really good alternative!

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