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    This summer I have had foot surgery on both feet (bunionechtmy). Even as we speak I am still recovering from the last one (off feet). The good news is I can start to be mobile tomorrow even if its still in a big black heavy sexy boot until @ the 23rd. The Doc says I can get into a running shoe then.

    I have been reading about the barefoot shoes (vivram, skeletoes, merrel etc) and am intrigued. I know I need a wider toe base and personally, nothing is more comfortable than being barefoot. Here is my question:

    Has anyone had this type of surgery and found that these shoes help or hinder?

    I am not a runner but it will be good to get back to exercising without pain, even if it is walking or using my gazelle, treadmill etc. and would like a good shoe to get me on the right track.
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    I imagine they would be helpful because they will let you move your toe. Also, be sure to go to all of your physical therapy appointments. Physical therapy is where the success of the surgery is made.

    When I first got out of my boot I couldn't move my toe at all. I thought I was going to walk away in my sandals- nope, you use your toe to hold your sandal on for each step. But physical therapy got it all working again.
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    • #3
      I had my left foot done first and am happy to say I have almost full range of motion back. I do the therapy faithfully! I have been pretty impressed considering they have done realignment and secured it with a screw. Hoping the right foot is just as good with the therapy.

      Any idea which shoe would be better for this than others?
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      • #4
        Sorry, I don't know. I have other problems with my feet and there's no way I could ever use a minimal shoe.

        I had reconstruction with pins sticking out, but they all came out after it was healed. I was also very happy with my surgery- much less pain after and even thouh my healing took longer than expected, with the pins I could walk, bike, swim, and randomly gross out my friends... It was all good.
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        • #5
          Questions to both of you about the surgery

          Hi all and very interested in your topic of foot surgery.

          I have bunions and corns but my feet do not hurt. My current issue is that the toe next to my big toe lays on top of my big toe and is pressing down so much that the nail of the big toe is squishing down and looking odd.

          About 10 years ago it was explained to me that they would need to cut the big toe bone and reattach much like one of you mentioned. I surely didn't want to impinge my ability to be mobile, climb sand dues, mountains, etc., so I held off on this surgery. Additionally, most people I know that have gone through this surgery really complain about it and say it didn't work.

          You both sound like it was successful. Would you mind explaining the length of the recuperation period and the pain level you have during recuperation, please?

          Thank you.
          Pam
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          • #6
            Hi Pam!

            The main reason I had the surgery was because had I not, I would have had one toe overlapping another. I cringed how I would cope with that as I aged and thought to just take care of it now. Each big toe was cut and repositioned (or straightened) to avoid the overlap. I am recovering fromt he second surgery now but here is the break down for the process. I believe because I followed the docs instructions to the letter that I am recovering fast.

            after the surgery for one week I was not allowed to put any weight on it and was put in a boot. 7 days after surgery I could walk on the boot. 7-10 days later I am put into a splint I wear on the foot and still wear the boot. The boot is worn for 3 weeks and then when the stiches come out (3rd week) I am in a shoe. Total recovery 5-6 weeks. The first foot I had done feels great. I am still doing my massages and excersises for it to break up scar tissue and almost have back my full range of motion. P.S. Invest in some booda butter!! oh my- you would NOT know my scar is as fresh as it is.. looks good!

            Doc said a tennis shoe but I am interested in the barefoot shoes- dont want to cramp the newly straightened tootsies!!

            Hope this helps
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            • #7
              I had the toe that went over the other toe. Pain was minimal. They cut out a triangle piece of bone so that it then went straight and stick it back together with tiny pins that protruded from the foot. After one week I could walk on the food and shower and bath. My healing was slow, so I was like that for four months. If I walked a lot it felt weird, not painful but weird. So on long trecks to classes (I was in college) I would use crutches and swing the foot along. Biking was totally fine.

              After the pins were out, there was a huge space between my big toe and the other toes that had been crowded over. Also I could not move the big toe at all. About two months of PT and I had 90% use of the big toe and now it's just fine. At some point a few months later the other toes moved over in the space of about week. This was uncomfortable, but take an advil uncomfortable, not break out the Vicodin uncomfortable.

              Before the surgery I had constant pain in the toe and pain when running, so the surgery was fabulous. Would totally do it again.

              Eta: I did end up with some back problems from the gimping around for those four months. If I had to do it again, probably yoga and massages for the back would have been good. But I was 19 and had no idea about that kind of thing.
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              • #8
                I also would do it again! I have a small screw in each toe which is probably why my recovery is faster. I guess in the end, talk to a ped dr and see exactly what the diagnosis is and which surgery is recommended. I know I wanted to do the surgery so that I was not in pain as I aged as I see so many. I wanted to remain active!
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                • #9
                  Can any of you who've had this surgery tell me if the doctors and/or therapists offer any advice on how to avoid having the bunions recur? I have one, but only on one foot right now—my other foot is starting to develop one and if I can stop or reverse that, I'd be ecstatic.
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                  • #10
                    My doctor has told me that mine probably came from my arches falling and then the progressive move to bunions. I got really good inserts but it was too late. I have an appointment tomorrow and will ask though
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                    • #11
                      Thanks very much!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by inquisitiveone View Post
                        Can any of you who've had this surgery tell me if the doctors and/or therapists offer any advice on how to avoid having the bunions recur? I have one, but only on one foot right now—my other foot is starting to develop one and if I can stop or reverse that, I'd be ecstatic.
                        I asked the doctor about prevention and he said:

                        If your speed/movement is changing you need to get it taken care of and one way to avoid a prolonged problem is to have your foot evaluated for an insert. (I will tell you that over the counter inserts will not provide adequate support, I don't care where you get it or what anyone says- the best insert, and I have tried many are the ones you get from a pediatrist that actually support. Most cave when pressure is applied and then what's the point?)

                        Now.. I did some research on my own as I have been going through this and have read success stories about folks who buy and wear daily the yoga sandals and slippers. Because they separate EACH toe AND support, there are a few that have seen positive results and a reversal.

                        As to my own quest for "barefoot" footwear, I am told not now and maybe not ever- heal first :/

                        Hope this helps.. let me know if you have more questions
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                        • #13
                          Hmmm. That suggests what I had feared: my karate training may be contributing to the problem. In addition to being barefoot there, I've been going barefoot a lot more at home to strengthen my feet—I'd been having some cramping issues that have resolved since making this change.

                          I hadn't seen those yoga sandals before; I think I'll give them a try. Thanks very much for your help!
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                          • #14
                            Today final stitches were removed and no more boot. The Doc said i should be able to get into Asics today and that was a total FAIL! OMG those hurt! Sooooo.. I had seen the New Balance minnimus shoes and they are so comfortable. Lots of room in the tow box and with the "barefoot" technology. Not sure if/when I will ever be back in Asics but these are doing great. So much that I am shopping for more in different colors. I am SUCH a girl! LOL
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                            • #15
                              I haven't had the surgery (yet? I guess we'll see), but I do have bunions. The left one is most noticable, sticks out maybe half an inch, and the right one is smaller, barely noticable. I have found that VFFs reduce my bunion pain *a lot*, something no other shoe has been able to do. It took about a month of slowly wearing them longer and longer distances and times (when I first got them, my foot muscles would ache if I wore them longer than a half hour) but eventually my muscles adjusted and I could not be happier with them.

                              My mom, who has had the bunion surgery, says she would love to be able to wear VFFs but unfortunately her feet are a little too wide for the soles that they use. Hopefully as VFFs become more popular they will be able to start manufacturing a bigger variety of foot shapes/sizes. I see you are a fan of New Balance, for a long time they were the only athletic shoes I would buy and they are still my mom's favorite (just for estimation, I'm usually a B width, my mom is usually a D), but for me, VFFs beat NB hands down for bunion comfort.

                              Really, though, the only way you will know is to go try them on yourself. Go to a store (you can use vibram's website to locate one near you) that carries a bunch of the different models. Personally I prefer the Bikila LS but it has nothing to do with bunions, I find the quick lace more comfy than the velcro bands.
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