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    Very well worth reading.


    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/pr...za/finkel-text


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    [quote]

    Onwas was interested in a picture of my cat. "How does it taste?" he asked</blockquote>


    Man did I laugh when I read this!

    I grok, therefore I am.

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      "They are living a hunter-gatherer existence that is little changed from 10,000 years ago. "


      This guy is obviously not an anthropologist. From what I hear this assumption of these tribes being the same

      (or almost the same) as they were in ancient times is asinine. Personally, I don&#39;t know much about it, but that is what I have heard.


      lol, it is safe to say that the writer wasn&#39;t thinking too much when he said the above statement about little change, when this is just a paragraph or two away:


      "He is wearing tire-tread sandals and tattered brown shorts. A hunting knife is strapped to his hip, in a sheath made of dik-dik hide. He&#39;s removed his shirt, as have most of the other men, because he wants to blend into the night."


      That doesn&#39;t sound too much like Grok, does it?

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        Bobby, I seriously wonder if there is anything on this life that you actually agree with...


        I liked the article, especially the bit of the society being loosely organized, with no strict hierarchy, commander, or roles... kinda makes one think about our perception of civilization that we always need clear cut leaders etc

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          Bobby, yes it sounds *exactly* like Grok, if he still existed today. The author said that their &#39;existence&#39; was little changed, not their clothing style.

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            Fascinating read.


            Of course, bl just blew right over - if he went past the beginning at all: "Time has not stood still for them. But they have maintained their foraging lifestyle in spite of long exposure to surrounding agriculturalist groups, and, says Marlowe, it&#39;s possible that their lives have changed very little over the ages."


            What struck me is the combination of Ayn Rand - the individual can mostly do what he/she wants - and Hillary Clinton - it indeed takes a village for survival. Probably not exactly the same for all HG&#39;s, but interesting.

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              I thought the article was a fantastic read.


              The idea of no social expectations (long drawn out goodbyes, burials, etc...) is incredibly appealing.


              Also, the absence of &#39;time&#39; for them is something that most of us long for. After the son waited for the journalist near the tree, he said that he wasn&#39;t waiting too long...just a few days! If only we had such a relaxed view of time the way they do.

              I grok, therefore I am.

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                lol, OTB, I only got through the first paragraph or so. Anyway, it is short sighted to suggest that these people live in a very similar way than how they lived 10,000 years ago. Just an assumption based on nothing

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                  well, doesn&#39;t that make you a hipocrite (sp?) if you don&#39;t read the article but say that it is shortsighted? How about making an assumption of the content of the article, based on not reading it?


                  I know, I shouldn&#39;t feed the trolls


                  I would post a receipe, but I find the article too much of interest to stop the thread right here :-)

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                    No, bl, it is not based on "nothing."


                    Obviously, clothing and knives are recent additions to their lives, but in all likelihood they have been living like this for many thousands of years. Within a framework of some variation, this describes how every other HG tribe has been described in the last hundred years.


                    How else before now? Growing grains?

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                      I was fascinated by the lack of relevance of time, authority, societal restrictions, etc. It was almost lulling reading this article (I actually read it a week ago after Dr. Eades posted a link). I&#39;m sure their life is hard at times, but I would hope there is some way to incorporate some of their lifestyle into mine. Isn&#39;t this what every school kid wishes for when they ask why everyone cannot just get along or what every adult wishes for when they retire?

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                        You really think that the people in this tribe were so stupid that they didn&#39;t advance their techniques tremendously over 500 or more generations? Come on, that is insane.

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                          "It&#39;s far better, they said, to be free and fed in the bush than destitute and hungry in the city."


                          Yet that appears to be where they&#39;re headed. I was speaking to a woman just two days ago who works with a charity that is helping schools in Tanzania. I thought that was great, but now. . .


                          Interesting about the honey gathering--maybe it was more Grokish than we&#39;ve been thinking.

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                            bobby - I think you&#39;re missing the point and taking the little amount of the article that you&#39;ve read a little too literally.


                            Yes, I&#39;m sure their hunting/gathering &#39;mad skillz&#39; have evolved but what this article is conveying is that their lifestyle has not been affected by modern society. They still don&#39;t care about time, social etiquette, goodbyes, death, etc... That stuff holds no value for them now, and more than likely, never did.

                            I grok, therefore I am.

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                              truly awe inspiring article!


                              "You really think that the people in this tribe were so stupid that they didn&#39;t advance their techniques tremendously over 500 or more generations?"


                              If they got it RIGHT 500 generations ago, why change?

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