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  • Do professional sports serve as an outlet for our primal sociological urges...?

    to unite with our own "clan" and rise up to crush opposing groups? During "pre-civilized" times, humans had to fight to preserve what little resources they had... so nowadays, in the time of convenience, to we NEED to "rally with our neighbors"

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    Nope. But I'm sure it does for some.

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    • #3
      Not a very good one. Local sports, that one can participate in do, though.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lojasmo View Post
        Not a very good one. Local sports, that one can participate in do, though.
        Good point. I do enjoy watching people I know or have connection to play. It builds a sense of community. But professional sports, nah.

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        • #5
          I would actually say yes. Although not everyone necessarily has those urges, for those who have the competitive warrior's spirit they do, and they do provide a vicarious replacement to the real thing. Furthermore, fans of sports are can also participate in coalition psychology as I think they make a very compelling case for here http://www.epjournal.net/filestore/EP08432446.pdf

          The mentality of the sports fans (and I'm assuming athletes since being an athlete is even more similar to battle) is what we would expect from those who are psychologically entrenched in the coalition psychology. Some of us have it and some don't, but we all have the potential. When I was young my entire life was playing basketball. Now I don't care much for athletics or competition and the closest I come is primal exercise. I would probably enjoy a basketball game, but it isn't a very powerful urge. Nor is fighting despite my tendency to stab.

          Oh but I do like fantasy fiction with epic battles and similar movies, so that's saying something. It clearly isn't as powerful an emotional drive as actually fighting, but it seems to correspond nicely to my need. I don't really want to play sports or fight, but I like to watch.
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          • #6
            Herd mentality
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            • #7
              I would be careful to equate a feeling of cooperation and belonging with herd mentality as Nietzsche put it. Herd mentality is when one stops thinking as an individual and defers to the common social dogmas with respect to their philosophy and beliefs. I agree that it can totally happen in sports, but it isn't necessarily the case. Many athletes demonstrate a conspicuous egoism.
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              • #8
                I'm sure there is something primal about liking American football and having a team. I know I like the Jets and well, Nick Mangold causes me to have all kinds of primal urges.
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                • #9
                  I think many people use pro-sports as a bad excuse to feel good about yourself when you didnt actually do anything "hell yea our team won ,we're awesome!!"

                  getting emotionally committed to something that has nothing to do with you is just silly
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                  • #10
                    Can't stand watching sports and I'm not a huge fan of watching fights. But I do love being involved in good game of ultimate frisbee, an intense sparring match, finishing a long hike, or killing my workout in the gym.

                    I find it's a lot easier and much more rewarding to get emotionally involved in my own (or my loved ones) accomplishments.

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                    • #11
                      I think many people use pro-sports as a bad excuse to feel good about yourself when you didnt actually do anything "hell yea our team won ,we're awesome!!"

                      getting emotionally committed to something that has nothing to do with you is just silly
                      Couldn't agree more. All too often dudes are coming in Monday morning, wasting half the day dissecting "their team's" performance (YOUR team? Really? What position did YOU play?!) Then they want to leave early so they don't miss Monday night football (really). It's ridiculous.

                      You want to brag about a team? Go out, play a sport, and then brag about YOUR team. Otherwise, shut your cake-hole.

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                      • #12
                        i find it's a lot easier and much more rewarding to get emotionally involved in my own (or my loved ones) accomplishments.
                        exactly.

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                        • #13
                          I have come to believe that the biggest lie ever told, one that has been told forever, is that one group of humans is better than and/or fundamentally different from any other group. Yet it is a constant in human history that one or more groups has sought dominance over others through violent means. You can't wish this away but perhaps this is our Darwinian destiny.

                          Sports do seem to channel this primal urge in a less destructive way, so good for them. But really, how else can you describe something as foolish as allegiance to the Red Sox and "hatred" of the Yankees. I'm a lifelong Bostonian and I still don't get it.
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