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  • Originally posted by tfarny View Post
    If you actually read the book, you'd know it is pretty different - they recommend a decent amount of white rice and potatoes daily, as opposed to saying, "they're not that bad" to cite one major difference. For another they don't recommend high protein consumption, adn for a third they actively recommend some pretty extensive supplementation.
    Daily rice n taters ? Sounds fun, but to stay ripped off of that.......sounds like a challenge.
    Less protein??? How is a person to stay full on that
    Supplements......Not for me....I will take my grass fed beef, veggies, sweet potatoes, coconut oil instead

    Im not being an ass, but wow does that sound like a challenge diet. Has anyone followed Marks advice and then tried the perfect diet???
    Last edited by MMMM FAT; 12-19-2011, 10:06 AM.

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    • They recommend CENTRUM multivitamin supplement...WTH...LOL. That is one of the worst!!!! supplements you can possibly take.
      All lab produced, chemical crap the body can't use and taxes your liver.

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      • What a great thread (up until today of course). I miss the days of deep discussion of the merits of different nutritional approaches for obtaining optimal weight and healthy without attacks
        Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

        http://www.krispin.com/lectin.html

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        • nutrition "science" is frustrating. i was told to stay away from fish because of mercury. especially my son, who has some ADHD issues (and his bloodwork did imply a high level of mercury). and this guy asks to eat salmon for ADHD.
          Few but ripe.

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          • Well, yes, you need the omega 3's, and also, yes, much fish is contaminated. I don't think sockeye salmon has issues with mercury, IIRC, so that would take care of both the mercury & the omega 3 issue.

            The principles aren't contradictory; the reality that we have poisoned the oceans (the best source of many essential nutrients) is the problem.
            5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
            Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
            Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
            Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
            ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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            • Hey I pre-purchased the "updated" perfect health diet book to be released in early December.

              I'm wondering if anyone has the current version of the book in Kindle that they could send through to me while I wait til early december?

              PM me if you have it

              Would really appreciate it! Thanks!! = o)

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              • Pretty keen to check out the new book too haven't read the 1st yet...

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                • Okay. Spent the last 3 hours before bed last night and 5 hours this morning reading through this thread. I also spent 2 hours at the bookstore yesterday skimming through the book and writing down the key points. I've come to the conclusion: I'm going to try this. Here's why: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread77462.html I'm aiming for 2000 calories a day, but I'll be starting slowly. I've been eating sweet potatoes pretty consistently (as I wrote in the other thread), but white rice & white potatoes have been largely off the menu. I'm thinking a 1/4 cup of rice to start, maybe one small, baked red potato, and some squash "pancakes" (GAPS diet-style) on the first day, as well as more coconut products, fermented veggies, and bone broths (Nourishing Traditions-style). Has anyone had any success with this in GAINING weight? I really need to get myself above 100 lbs. Please let me know, and I'll keep you all updated on my other thread if you're interested...
                  "One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." -Virginia Woolf

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                  • If you want to gain weight, then I can think of no better way than to drink your calories. In a primal sense, this means LOTS of cream, and having fried food swimming in lard. (Eat it hot, since cold lard is the suck)
                    Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                    Griff's cholesterol primer
                    5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                    Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                    TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                    bloodorchid is always right

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                    • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                      If you want to gain weight, then I can think of no better way than to drink your calories. In a primal sense, this means LOTS of cream, and having fried food swimming in lard. (Eat it hot, since cold lard is the suck)
                      I've been considering protein shakes, but I'm having a hard time finding one that doesn't have a lot of crap in it, especially soy lecithin (I think I may be sensitive to soy now). The ones I was drinking a year ago when this all started, Orgain, have changed their formula and now taste nasty. I also think I may be sensitive to chocolate ='( Any recommendations for protein shakes (other than Mark's; I can't afford it, even the 15-serving option)? Thanks =)
                      "One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." -Virginia Woolf

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                      • Why do you want a protein shake to gain weight? All you need is calories for that, and both carbs and fat are better sources....

                        There's an upper limit to how much protein you can process, and I'd rather get my protein in meat form than liquid...
                        Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                        Griff's cholesterol primer
                        5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                        Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                        TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                        bloodorchid is always right

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                        • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                          Why do you want a protein shake to gain weight? All you need is calories for that, and both carbs and fat are better sources....

                          There's an upper limit to how much protein you can process, and I'd rather get my protein in meat form than liquid...
                          You make a valid point, but I don't *just* want to gain body fat; I'd like to get some of my muscle mass back as well. I figure I've lost roughly 25% of my muscle, maybe more, and I want to get some (if not all) of it back. Also, my sensitive insides seem to have a hard time digesting meat of any kind except fish, so I have to be careful about how much I eat in one sitting. Getting my protein in liquid form isn't ideal, granted, but it's easier on my body. A neat "trick" I learned last year is that when you consume mostly liquids, you never really get full, so you can eat more throughout the day. Having a protein shake between meals puts that many more calories and nutrients in me without filling up my stomach. Sneaky, yeah, less than ideal, sure. But does it work? Totally.
                          "One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." -Virginia Woolf

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                          • I would still stick to eating 'normal' protein sources (i.e. eggs, meat, fish) and if you need more total calories, add more fat.
                            Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                            Griff's cholesterol primer
                            5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                            Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                            TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                            bloodorchid is always right

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                            • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                              I would still stick to eating 'normal' protein sources (i.e. eggs, meat, fish) and if you need more total calories, add more fat.
                              I'm actually not eating eggs right now, but I'll be bringing them back gradually (I haven't had a real egg in months). I'm also working on adding more fat, especially coconut oil, but again, it's gradual. I don't want to assault my body all at once...
                              "One cannot think well, love well, sleep well, if one has not dined well." -Virginia Woolf

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                              • Finished the book, some things i liked some i didnt, it was weird how some conclusions were reached, and it got kinda repetitive. I think best thing to do is take the most common sense things from the book and definitley apply those. I think i mite need to read it again though, to get an even better understanding and pick up perhaps more flaws?

                                Anyone agree with my summary?

                                Also can anyone recommend any other books i can read, similiar to phd, or something just in general interesting regarding health, primal lifestyle and such..

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