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  • Heh I get knox gelatin in the little boxes either from Wal-Mart or Whole Foods (depending on which one has it in stock, for some reason they run out quickly)... buying in bulk online would be cheaper. I don't think organic/grass-fed matters too much though.

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    • So what kind of gelatin is safe to buy? Or do we need to make our own? If so, how do you make it?

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      • Gelatin powder is all safe. A "health food" store will likely have big bags in the baking section. The other ways to get gelatin that I know of are bone broth and chicken feet. Mmm.
        Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

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        • Stabby, is this a kind of gelatin I could buy?

          Now Foods, Beef Gelatin, Unflavored, Powder, 1 lb (454 g) - iHerb.com

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          • Sure, go for it.
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            • Originally posted by MalPaz View Post
              you must have a high rollin job to eat salmon and lamb chops... damn, i need to find a sugar daddy
              Well heeeeey there...


              Still looking through the website, and absorbing the info.

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              • Originally posted by Stabby View Post
                Listed are sweet potato, yam, potato, white rice, and taro. I will add squashes. They say not to count stuff like broccoli because it is so slowly absorbing and has to little carbs the glucose will likely be devoured by gut bacteria.
                I assume plantain and cassava (yuca) fit in here?
                I have not read the book yet, it is in my queue, what is their position on legumes?

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                • I would put plantain and cassava as good starches, and also add breadfruit.

                  They aren't fans of legumes and say to avoid them.
                  "My mom made two dishes: Take it or Leave it." -- Stephen Wright, comedian

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                  • Reading through I see that they are okay with rice noodles. I could go to my beloved vietnamese joint down on hester st. and not get weird looks from the ancient wait staff, and chef when I ask for the pho with tendon, minus the pho.

                    Although I am thinking that a lower carb primal style diet is still probably best for weight loss.

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                    • I do not believe for a second that 50g of carbs is any better than 100g. Atkins observes that people seem to be able to lose a fair bit of weight no matter what if they reduce it to 20g whereas they can't at 50 or 100. To that I say that it is the "Perfect Health Diet" and health is the goal, not just a perfect ass right here right now as quickly as possible. Fat melts away as a result of the restorations of metabolic homeostasis, which happens inevitably if we just try to be as healthy as possibly in every facet of health. They make a decent case that it is actually healthier to have about 100g of carbs than to have less, as long as a little time is spend in ketosis on a regular basis. This is accomplished by either intermittent fasting or fat-fasting (where only fat is consumed. And the best autophagy is that without protein too, apparently).

                      Not that rice noodles are all that healthy, but they're not going to do much harm.
                      Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

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                      • Originally posted by Stabby View Post
                        I do not believe for a second that 50g of carbs is any better than 100g. Atkins observes that people seem to be able to lose a fair bit of weight no matter what if they reduce it to 20g whereas they can't at 50 or 100. To that I say that it is the "Perfect Health Diet" and health is the goal, not just a perfect ass right here right now as quickly as possible. Fat melts away as a result of the restorations of metabolic homeostasis, which happens inevitably if we just try to be as healthy as possibly in every facet of health. They make a decent case that it is actually healthier to have about 100g of carbs than to have less, as long as a little time is spend in ketosis on a regular basis. This is accomplished by either intermittent fasting or fat-fasting (where only fat is consumed. And the best autophagy is that without protein too, apparently).

                        Not that rice noodles are all that healthy, but they're not going to do much harm.
                        I too hate to see people equating a faster weight loss diet with an optimal health diet.
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                        • They make a decent case that it is actually healthier to have about 100g of carbs than to have less, as long as a little time is spend in ketosis on a regular basis. This is accomplished by either intermittent fasting or fat-fasting (where only fat is consumed. And the best autophagy is that without protein too, apparently).
                          Agreed. I've found this to be true for me in my Primal journey. Much easier fat loss while IFing for 16-18 hours and eating 70-80 gm/carb than when I was eating vlc and counting calories--and IF is very sustainable for me.
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                          • Originally posted by Dragonfly View Post
                            Agreed. I've found this to be true for me in my Primal journey. Much easier fat loss while IFing for 16-18 hours and eating 70-80 gm/carb than when I was eating vlc and counting calories--and IF is very sustainable for me.
                            This works for me, too.
                            I wonder if there would be any benefit in the timing of carb ingestion. Maybe eat fat and protein through the afternoon and then a carb heavy (to a point) meal late in the day. I may try that sometime. I drink about 4 oz. of a fruit juice late in the evening to make sure I'm not in ketosis at bed time. I find I get to sleep much easier. More carbs later may replace that little ritual.
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                            • Originally posted by TCOHTom View Post
                              This works for me, too.
                              I wonder if there would be any benefit in the timing of carb ingestion. Maybe eat fat and protein through the afternoon and then a carb heavy (to a point) meal late in the day. I may try that sometime. I drink about 4 oz. of a fruit juice late in the evening to make sure I'm not in ketosis at bed time. I find I get to sleep much easier. More carbs later may replace that little ritual.
                              Hmmm. Interesting?

                              Anyone else lose more weight eating more than 50g of carbs a day?

                              And how much fat loss are we talking here? Because I'm not down to that "last 10lbs." i've got more like 50lbs. to go at this point.

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                              • Originally posted by DarthFriendly View Post
                                Hmmm. Interesting?

                                Anyone else lose more weight eating more than 50g of carbs a day?

                                And how much fat loss are we talking here? Because I'm not down to that "last 10lbs." i've got more like 50lbs. to go at this point.
                                I don't limit carbs at all and have lost about 50 lbs. I am sure I have higher days and lower days, but I would guess I am well over 50 g of carbs per day.
                                Using low lectin/nightshade free primal to control autoimmune arthritis. (And lost 50 lbs along the way )

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