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  • #16
    Hi KimchiNinja - Not to hijack this thread but what about rice consumption in Asia? Asian cultures are usually held up as an example of why humans can have a diet based on carbohydrates. I seem to remember based on one business trip to Seoul and having dinner at a chinese friend's house that that the rice portions were in fact small, tiny by western standards, and we mostly ate vegetables and meat.

    sorry for hijacking...please go back to your regularly scheduled topic.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by mike View Post
      Hi KimchiNinja - Not to hijack this thread but what about rice consumption in Asia? Asian cultures are usually held up as an example of why humans can have a diet based on carbohydrates. I seem to remember based on one business trip to Seoul and having dinner at a chinese friend's house that that the rice portions were in fact small, tiny by western standards, and we mostly ate vegetables and meat.

      sorry for hijacking...please go back to your regularly scheduled topic.
      Don't bother responding to KimchiNinja. He's a troll (I've found this out the hard way as well) and I'm actually starting to feel bad for him.
      My nutrition/fitness/critical thinking blog:

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      • #18
        What do the Atkins Diet and the traditional Japanese diet have in common? The Atkins Diet is low in carbohydrate and usually high in fat; the Japanese diet is high in carbohydrate and usually low in fat. Yet both work to promote weight loss. One commonality of both diets is that they both eliminate the monosaccharide fructose.
        *Facepalm*

        They also tend to be low in processed foods, therefore eliminating polyunsaturated oils and all kinds of funky additives and chemicals. Maybe it isn't the fructose we're consuming making us unhealthy and it's the huge quantity of processed frankenfoods that our bodies barely recognize as food? These are the same morons that think salt is unhealthy. High consumption of red meat, fructose and sodium all correlate with a higher frequency of eating out, consuming processed foods, smoking, drinking more alcohol and not exercising. Maybe it isn't the red meat, fructose and sodium, but rather ALL THE OTHER STUFF?

        Excuse me while I eat an apple. I hope the fructose doesn't kill me.
        Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 07-11-2013, 09:46 AM.
        Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by KimchiNinja View Post
          I'm fine with Lustig, nobody else in the states has the nuts to say a word against industry.

          There was a link above to a blog post by some guy name Alan Aragon. I have no idea who this guy is, but he's an idiot, or at least he has never lived in NE Asia and ought not to comment on topics of which he knows nothing. Here's what I got from his blog:
          Lustig is a severely overweight sensationalist moron. If you're going to preach about health and want to be taken seriously, a good starting point is not being 75 pounds overweight.

          Alan Aragon, while possibly the biggest fish oil toting fool out there, he is Asian, so he probably has some cultural idea.



          Sugar is less "fattening" than starch.
          Starch is less "fattening" than oil.
          Oils high in SFA are less "fattening" than oils low in SFA.

          Olive oil is more fattening than coconut oil. Corn oil is more fattening than olive oil. Carbohydrate in general is less fattening than fat, and sugar is less fattening than starch because it is absorbed much more slowly and controlled.
          Last edited by ChocoTaco369; 07-11-2013, 09:52 AM.
          Don't put your trust in anyone on this forum, including me. You are the key to your own success.

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          • #20
            from what I know one should consume less than 50 g of fructose a day

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            • #21
              From my own n=1 experience, as long as i get my calories and protein intake right, fructose doesnt correlate at all with my body fat or weight.

              As a sidenote, you can make a nice glue from it (and most simple sugars as well), if you heat it with a minimal amount of water. Children like that sort of experiments.
              Last edited by mavo; 07-15-2013, 10:01 PM.

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              • #22
                These people think fructose is really bad too...

                Are You Suffering from Fructose Poisoning - Life Extension

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