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  • #46
    I go to Holtorf Medical Group in Torrance. They do a lot of out-of-town patients. You need to go see them in person once a year, and the rest you do over the phone. Some insurance will cover it but you need to pay them and do the paperwork to get some of it back. My insurance here hardly covers any of it so I just budget for it. Beats being a wreck. Do a google on the name to get their site.

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    • #47
      Thanks for the info DFH. There's a compounding pharmacy close by so I'm guessing I can have what ever I need made there. Actually, the way I found the doc I'm seeing tomorrow was by calling the compounding pharmacy and asking them who in the area prescribes natural thyroid.

      My insurance will pay for the blood work up he does but nothing else. Initial consultation is $250 but that's for an hour to hour and a half. Money well spent. There's people in my life that have no idea that I used to be 180 lbs. I'm not huge by any stretch but still I want to be who I used to be, or as close as I can get. People think after 17 years you should just accept your self the way you are, I say f*** that! I'll never accept it, never!

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      • #48
        Sounds like you got the right plan. Keep us posted!

        The days of being big and sick were just crazy on this end. I knew it had to be something, just didn't know what. I would look in the mirror and just go "liar!"

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        • #49
          In addition, I don't wish our problems on any one but it's so nice to discuss this stuff with people that understand. No one in my life really understands what it's like. Trying to discuss it, with even the most understanding person, has their eyes glazing over after a few minutes. When it comes down to it, you and you alone bear the weight of your problems and you have to be the one to pursue the solution. No one will do it for you.

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          • #50
            No kidding. I lost track of how many people would say "just do something, exercise, WHAT are you eating?" Then when you try to explain they just stop listening immediately. It's just amazing. Well, I got even with all of them! You will too.

            It happened so fast, I also noticed pretty quick how people treat you differently. People look you in the eye more, talk more, and are more friendly. It's sad but true.

            Also, I would be interested to hear what diet your doc talks about. The Holtorf folks pretty much prescribed Primal but just didn't call it that.

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            • #51
              Part of the their approach is speaking with a nutrtionist. I was kind of leary about that but after discussing how I eat, the cooridnator said I probably am already doing what they'd normally recommend. I'll report back after my appointment this evening.

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              • #52
                My head is swimming after that appointment. Got all kinds of test lined up and then go back in a month.

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                • #53
                  Ha.. I guess mine was too. Did they specify a diet to start on, or did they say wait for tests?

                  When I did the first visit, my doc said "We won't prescribe anything until we get test results, but just based on how much synthroid you are taking, your story, weight and appearance, I can just about assure you it is high reverse T3, due to the synthroid"

                  From the beginning, the doc said get south beach, and stay on phase 1. No milk, no carbs, eat natural, whole food like lean protein and veggies and avoid processed junk. if he would have said "Do Primal," at that point it would have been about the same.

                  I had lost 20 lb by the second visit, which is when I started in on natural T3. The doc said things were so screwed up, he was surprised that I had lost any weight at all yet.

                  I'm curious how things turn out..keep us posted!

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                  • #54
                    He wanted me to talk with their nutritionist until I told him I'd been eating primal for over a year. He said that's pretty much what she would've recommended so I'm good to go. He won't change any thing with my meds until he gets all the results back. I hate waiting a month but I want to do it right. He feels pretty certain I'd benefit greatly from natural thyroid but he wants all the facts in front of him. He's going to work with my endocronologist....I'lll be really curious how that works out

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                    • #55
                      Let me know what he says. I'm on levothyroxine, and want to get off. Doc says I'll be on it the rest of my life. Yeah, that's what my mom said about me & insulin. Haven't had it in 6 months!
                      --Trish (Bork)
                      TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
                      http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
                      FOOD PORN BLOG! http://theprimaljunkfoodie.blogspot.com

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                      • #56
                        Good for you. Just based on what you reported so far, I don't think you could have done any better...

                        I don't remember if I asked this...does this doc deal with other hormones too? The endocrine system has a lot more going on besides thyroid and insulin, as you know. My doc has the natural thyroid, plus they can also prescribe testosterone, cortisol, HCG, progesterone, and HGH.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                          Let me know what he says. I'm on levothyroxine, and want to get off. Doc says I'll be on it the rest of my life. Yeah, that's what my mom said about me & insulin. Haven't had it in 6 months!
                          Levothyroxine=synthetic T4. If you are not perfectly happy with it, I would seriously consider getting a different dr. Endos can be 20 years behind the times, very stubborn, and overall just terrible.

                          Read "Thyroid-Are You One of the 20 Million?" on the blog in my sig, third article down (as of right now anyway.)

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                          • #58
                            It's not that I'm not happy with it. It makes me feel better, I just want to be drug free. Any other suggestions on homeopathic alternatives? My doc has been pretty supportive of my weight loss, but doesn't know about my diet change.
                            --Trish (Bork)
                            TROPICAL TRADITIONS REFERRAL # 7625207
                            http://pregnantdiabetic.blogspot.com
                            FOOD PORN BLOG! http://theprimaljunkfoodie.blogspot.com

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Dr. Bork Bork View Post
                              It's not that I'm not happy with it. It makes me feel better, I just want to be drug free. Any other suggestions on homeopathic alternatives? My doc has been pretty supportive of my weight loss, but doesn't know about my diet change.
                              I'm not sure if you meant homeopathic literally, or if you meant something more natural. I have never read anything about homeopathy that gives me any confidence at all!

                              As far as a natural alternative to Levothyroxine, yes. Levothyroxine is synthetic T4. T4 is supposed to be an input to your thyroid to prompt your body to release the correct amount of T3. Some people do OK on it, sometimes it is a disaster. Levothyroxine is unpopular with a lot of thyroid patients.

                              There are natural thyroid alternatives that are a mixture of T3 and T4, and you can even get natural T3 (which is what I use).

                              The best source for info I know of is Mary Shomon's site and books, Thyroid Disease Information Source -- Bestselling Books, News, Information on Living Well With Hypothyroidism, Autoimmune Disease, Thyroid Diet, Home Page of Mary Shomon

                              My own doc does not look at TSH. He prescribes a natural T3 and does blood tests for T3. It's stronger than T4 and requires a bit more follow up, but it really made a difference in my case.

                              I don't know of a way to just get your thyroid working again to get off the meds entirely. You would not want to rely on something like that and stop having tests. I would think you need to keep going for good, but you may have better results with the natural stuff.

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                              • #60
                                DFH, what is the name of the natural T3 you take?

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