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    The more I read, the more stupid I feel. I'm not stupid really; I am a healthcare professional, have 2 degree's (3 if I count my nursing) and a masters. I know how to critically think and critique research.
    I cannot imagine why I have accepted so much doctrine without challenging it and without even really thinking about it. I've even taught it to others. I feel heartsick,angry and betrayed and so f-ing stupid.
    When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
    27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
    new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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    Don't feel stupid. There was a conspiracy to misinform you. You did the best you could under the circumstances. Feel good that you have finally seen through the subterfuge.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by CarbDodger View Post
      The more I read, the more stupid I feel. I'm not stupid really; I am a healthcare professional, have 2 degree's (3 if I count my nursing) and a masters. I know how to critically think and critique research.
      I cannot imagine why I have accepted so much doctrine without challenging it and without even really thinking about it. I've even taught it to others. I feel heartsick,angry and betrayed and so f-ing stupid.
      I feel your pain,

      I'm doing graduate studies now, and its ridiculous how much we take for granted, conventional wisdom isn't just relevant to diet its across the board.

      Literally makes my head hurt every. single. day.
      Starting waist measurement: 36". Current 35". First Goal 33".
      Starting backsquat: 50lbs. Current squat: 132lbs.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
        Don't feel stupid. There was a conspiracy to misinform you.
        Yep, probably some unholy alliance of Lex Luthor, Ronald McDonald and CIA! - because that doesen't sound stupid at all, so then it must be true...
        "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

        - Schopenhauer

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        • #5
          Yea, I could hardly get through a biology class because of all the general assumptions we had to infer on how fats are bad for us, and that bagels are necessary part of everyone's diet... As time goes on I feel like I am getting better at tolerating it though, there is literally billions, perhaps trillions of dollars pushing that information to the masses.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CarbDodger View Post
            The more I read, the more stupid I feel. I'm not stupid really; I am a healthcare professional, have 2 degree's (3 if I count my nursing) and a masters. I know how to critically think and critique research.
            I cannot imagine why I have accepted so much doctrine without challenging it and without even really thinking about it. I've even taught it to others. I feel heartsick,angry and betrayed and so f-ing stupid.
            Ah, Grasshopper,
            You have taken the first step with the self realization that you are but a grasshopper and there is much to learn,
            Be thankful, as most die not realizing this.
            "There are no short cuts to enlightenment, the journey is the destination, you have to walk this path alone"

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            • #7
              It's funny, ever since I've learned to open my mind about nutrition, it's made me start to question absolutely everything. Example: I've always been a straight-and-narrow kind of girl, doing what my parents want and what my professors say, etc etc... lately I've begun to wonder "why?" and it's like my whole life has opened up.

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              • #8
                It is amazing actually from what I ve read/seen since I began to follow primal eating - the endemic misinformation regarding what constitutes healthy eating has really only been around since the 1950 s and yet what a difference it has made to our societies. Also it would appear that when we talk about food production, the profit worshipping free market has done little to aid our physical health and is unlikely to, given that the cheapest ingredients - grains -give rise to the biggest profits. And then when people get ill further profits from selling medications...
                Healthy is the new wealthy.

                http://www.facebook.com/groups/ances...handnutrition/

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Owen View Post
                  It is amazing actually from what I ve read/seen since I began to follow primal eating - the endemic misinformation regarding what constitutes healthy eating has really only been around since the 1950 s and yet what a difference it has made to our societies. Also it would appear that when we talk about food production, the profit worshipping free market has done little to aid our physical health and is unlikely to, given that the cheapest ingredients - grains -give rise to the biggest profits. And then when people get ill further profits from selling medications...
                  I would hardly use the words "free market" when talking about food production. Bottom line is we all have free will. This thread reminds me that we are all lazy and take information for granted, but then someone questions & then another...I am just happy that I have more knowledge

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                  • #10
                    I would use "free market". Uncontrolled by limits on monopolies and influence-peddling, the "free market" leads to abuses just like this. Why compete freely when your money can buy laws that favor your business? And who really has "free will" to change their situation while their only source of information is misinformation intended to soak them for a profit while destroying their health?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CarbDodger View Post
                      The more I read, the more stupid I feel. I'm not stupid really; I am a healthcare professional, have 2 degree's (3 if I count my nursing) and a masters. I know how to critically think and critique research.
                      I cannot imagine why I have accepted so much doctrine without challenging it and without even really thinking about it. I've even taught it to others. I feel heartsick,angry and betrayed and so f-ing stupid.
                      Yes, but mostly I felt very angry at being so deceived. Now that I've gotten over the anger, I more often feel stupid at the many failures of my N=1 experiments. (And a bit angry that although I pay for full doctor's and medical care, I have to do these experiments without guidance.)
                      "When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." - Alston Chase

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                      • #12
                        I also believe that we have free will and don't wish to detract from its importance, after all without free will I wouldn't have discovered optimal health benefits from this way of eating and living that is literally transforming my life. So free will is wonderful. So a 34 year old like me eating cereal bars and 'sugar free' stuff that comes in a box? That's my bed to lie in and rightly so. But the people who are encouraged to consume these products aren't 34. They're 8. I was one of them. A lot of us were. A few lucky ones have broken free, and good for us, but we have to educate children about this. We have to protect them. I know that may sound a little dramatic but we are after all discussing the biggest threat to their lives. This isn't just an academic discussion, this is real. The production of unhealthy, chemical-laden 'food' by unfettered multi-national companies is now the largest threat to the life of the average child in the western world, and has been since the 80's.
                        Healthy is the new wealthy.

                        http://www.facebook.com/groups/ances...handnutrition/

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                        • #13
                          No, I'd rather feel good that I now know the truth, or at least the way that works for me.
                          Meat is Prized, Wheat is Despised.

                          Real Food - The REAL staff of life

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                          • #14
                            I couldn't agree more with you Owen! The key is get children to prefer real foods over manufactured foods and the way to do that is to not introduce those manufactured foods while their palate is forming. The producers know that if they can hook kids early they have the possibility of a life long customer. We need to keep kids away from those foods for as long as possible.

                            I know this works because I have 15 yr. old and he never had fast food, cereal or pizza and now he's not at all interested in them. We weren't primal when he was young but I've always made food from scratch and we never ate frakenfoods. Sure he's had store bought cookies and chips, but they don't have a hold on him, meaning he doesn't have to have them. If you ask him what is his idea of comfort food he will say homemade beef stew.
                            Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PrimalStudent View Post
                              It's funny, ever since I've learned to open my mind about nutrition, it's made me start to question absolutely everything. Example: I've always been a straight-and-narrow kind of girl, doing what my parents want and what my professors say, etc etc... lately I've begun to wonder "why?" and it's like my whole life has opened up.
                              I've always asked why of almost everything including doctor's and all authorities ( it often has,annoyed professionals and even family/friends - as I'm not supposed to question authority), but from reading and practicing this,way of eating and living the questioning is even higher - even my very critical mind was deceived to some degree, partly by not enough time to check stuff, too much trust, and not wanting to annoy people so much by asking.

                              I then started to annoy some family ( some of them are medical professionals - and often sick) they are probably harming themselves by following the authorities nutritional guidelines, but after negative feedback from them I now stopped doing that.

                              Now on the rare occasions I'm asked things from them, I just change the subject, or if I can be bothered I tell them I cant help them as they wont want to hear what I have to say and then change the subject.

                              I'm now at a point that ANY "authority" is wrong until proven otherwise to me ( again this "arrogance" is annoying to the average person).

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