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    i have been reading some of links such as from Jack Kruse website that it is best to eat the fish compare to getting fish oil. The fish oil when consuming the fish is protected and it is in its native form/structure where it is best suited for the body (especially brain and heart) to benefit from.

    i generally take carlson's fish oil.

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    Jack Kruse is a nutter.

    That said, it is still better to eat fish rather than take fish oil pills.

    The fish oil in the pills can easily become rancid or oxidised, although that's not guaranteed, it's more likely with the cheaper brands.
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    • #3
      Fish also tastes better than fish pills...
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      • #4
        I think the correct answer is both. Sure, fish oil in fish is probably the best source. But personally, I can't eat enough fish to get the amount of fish oil I take.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
          Jack Kruse is a nutter.

          That said, it is still better to eat fish rather than take fish oil pills.

          The fish oil in the pills can easily become rancid or oxidised, although that's not guaranteed, it's more likely with the cheaper brands.

          thank you for that. i hate eating fish but i will force myself to get used to it.

          most likely will buy fish oil too just to make sure i am getting enough omega 3s though it will be most likely no get absorbed as well.

          though jack kruse comes off as kind of forcefull or sometimes his writing is hard to understand, his work is amazing and works great. especially his cold thermogenesis routine.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by genao87 View Post
            i have been reading some of links such as from Jack Kruse website that it is best to eat the fish compare to getting fish oil. The fish oil when consuming the fish is protected and it is in its native form/structure where it is best suited for the body (especially brain and heart) to benefit from.

            i generally take carlson's fish oil.
            Yes, it is. Fish oil is better than nothing. But when extracted and having sat around on shelves for who knows how long, these delicate PUFAs in it can be oxidized. Besides, better to get it along with other nutrients. Have a look at the very good videos from Dr. Broadhurst at the University of Maryland, and expert on brain chemistry, that Jack links fat the bottom of his latest blog post. You'll notice Dr. Broadhurst says quite definitively towards the end of the second video "I would prefer that people eat fish":

            Brain Gut 14: Personal Ground Zero | Living an Optimized Life

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            • #7
              oh wow, he came out with brain gut 14 already. dude is on a role. i actually check out the video. he mentions also that fish even with some mercury would be okay since the selenium in the fish binds with the mercury and makes it useless. it was mentioned to the point that it should be our primary source fuel, above pasture/grassfed meat.

              didnt realize our ancestors started doing this more than 100,000 years ago.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by genao87 View Post
                didnt realize our ancestors started doing this more than 100,000 years ago.
                The pile of burnt shells that she was talking about were 160,000 years old, but these resources were being used much earlier. The interesting thing is that paleoanthropologists had not realized this in the past. This was coming from brain chemists: they knew what the requirements of the human brain were, and therefore what would have been required to build it in the first place and then maintain it (and here also bear this in mind.). So then people need to go back and look more carefully at remains. We're now talking about 1.95 million years ago at Turkana:

                Examples of percussion-fractured shaft fragments and bones with cut marks indicate that hominins at this site exploited terrestrial and aquatic mammals for meat and marrow, as well as the flesh of reptiles and fish (Fig. 3). The animals that these early tool users were accessing range from size class 2 (e.g., impala, suids) to size class 5 (e.g., hippopotamus, rhinoceros) animals (13) and also include crocodiles, turtles, and catfish
                Early hominin diet included diverse terrestrial and aquatic animals 1.95 Ma in East Turkana, Kenya

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                • #9
                  there is a certain romance to the image of a band of groks, spears in hand, chasing down and killing large prey. that being said, it's much easier to scoop small fish, catch turtles and snakes and harvest mollusks. it's a project one could do in a scant amount of time and have plenty of food, vs. possibly coming up empty-handed after a hunt. "fishing" and small critter collecting could be easily done by women, children and the elderly too. it requires little strength and no fleetness of foot.

                  yes, eat fish. i know the carlson's is a good brand, but stuff like this is way better gotten from food.
                  As I ate the oysters with their strong taste of the sea and their faint metallic taste that the cold white wine washed away, leaving only the sea taste and the succulent texture, and as I drank their cold liquid from each shell and washed it down with the crisp taste of the wine, I lost the empty feeling and began to be happy and to make plans.

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                  • #10
                    Preferably wild-caught, rather than farmed. Farmed fish aren't gonna do it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by noodletoy View Post
                      there is a certain romance to the image of a band of groks, spears in hand, chasing down and killing large prey. that being said, it's much easier to scoop small fish, catch turtles and snakes and harvest mollusks. it's a project one could do in a scant amount of time and have plenty of food, vs. possibly coming up empty-handed after a hunt. "fishing" and small critter collecting could be easily done by women, children and the elderly too. it requires little strength and no fleetness of foot.

                      yes, eat fish. i know the carlson's is a good brand, but stuff like this is way better gotten from food.
                      Not to mention stealing eggs from nests (mind the ostrich).

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                      • #12
                        two things - 1) don't read anymore jack kruse; 2) thankfully he's quite right on this one.

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                        • #13
                          The simple answer is 'yes'. The other answer is longer. Since I apparently love to see my crap in print, I will tell you:

                          I see you don't like fish. So, make sure you make the effort to eat the biggest bang for the buck: WILD caught Pacific/cold water salmon. Cold water, fatty fish in general have the highest Omega 3 content. Anchovies, mackeral (Atlantic), sardines. If you don't like fish, you might *hate* those. Pacific black cod is also high in Omega 3s.

                          Halibut is OK source. Shrimp are a little less.

                          It really is important to attend to the source and farming practices. Like beef, fish fed on farmed food diets will not have the fatty acid content you desire.

                          A little fish oil in capsules won't hurt.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by jakey View Post
                            two things - 1) don't read anymore jack kruse; 2) thankfully he's quite right on this one.
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                            • #15
                              agreed - jack kruse is spot on wrt seafood.
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