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  • Epigenetic (a.k.a. Functional) Orthodontics: building better faces

    I've been researching functional orthodontics, which seek to improve the underdevelopment of the jaws and face due to poor nutrition (think Weston Price) with innovative dental appliances (not braces) that widen the arch and realign the teeth. Totally different than the traditional orthodontics paradigm.
    It's so fascinating to see the facial changes that occur as a result (not to mention the improvements in things like sleep apnea, TMJ, nervous system imbalances and even Tourette's Syndrome!) I really want to have this done some day

    Here's my blog post on the subject:
    Pretty in Primal: Epigenetic Orthodontics: Building Better Bites, Faces and Health?
    Last edited by hazyjane; 05-16-2011, 10:01 PM.
    http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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    Originally posted by hazyjane View Post
    I've been researching functional orthodontics, which seek to improve the underdevelopment of the jaws and face due to poor nutrition (think Weston Price) with innovative dental appliances (not braces) that widen the arch and realign the teeth. Totally different than the traditional orthodontics paradigm.
    It's so fascinating to see the facial changes that occur as a result (not to mention the improvements in things like sleep apnea, TMJ, nervous system imbalances and even Tourette's Syndrome! I really want to have this done some day

    Here's my blog post on the subject:
    Pretty in Primal: Epigenetic Orthodontics: Building Better Bites, Faces and Health?
    Wow - I have never heard of this, but have always hated my underdeveloped lower jaw and crappy arch. I had no idea there were options out there to correct this. Any suggestions of how to find a reputable practitioner?
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    • #3
      At the bottom of the article, I go over several treatment options and each one has a list of dentists on their site

      I had no idea about all this either, until just recently. We hear so much about how f*cked our teeth and jaws are but nothing about what can be done!
      http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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      • #4
        Thanks for this!
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        • #5
          Really interesting that you bring up the change in faces - when I was a kid, I had a palate expander and orthodontic headgear to correct a narrow palate and reverse overjet (maybe my orthodontist was ahead of his time?). It made my face significantly broader overall, and prevented me from ever needing braces. I also suspect it's the reason why I haven't had to get my wisdom teeth removed. In other words, it made my face and mouth look a lot like the people in Nutrition and Physical Degeneration who were eating their native diets.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by theholla View Post
            Really interesting that you bring up the change in faces - when I was a kid, I had a palate expander and orthodontic headgear to correct a narrow palate and reverse overjet (maybe my orthodontist was ahead of his time?). It made my face significantly broader overall, and prevented me from ever needing braces. I also suspect it's the reason why I haven't had to get my wisdom teeth removed. In other words, it made my face and mouth look a lot like the people in Nutrition and Physical Degeneration who were eating their native diets.
            I SO envy you! I surprisingly still have all my wisdom teeth (and very little crowding, despite a small lower jaw). I'm hoping to do palate expansion and bring my lower jaw forward. I have chronic shoulder tension and I think it's likely due to my bite!
            http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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            • #7
              BTW, if you guys want to see something phenomenal that really illustrates how much your jaws can mess you up, watch the Tourette's treatment videos:
              Dr. Stack - TMJ Pain, TMD Pain, Orthodontics, Fibromyalgia, Sleep Apnea, Virginia, Washington DC, Maryland, VA, MD, DC
              http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hazyjane View Post
                I SO envy you! I surprisingly still have all my wisdom teeth (and very little crowding, despite a small lower jaw). I'm hoping to do palate expansion and bring my lower jaw forward. I have chronic shoulder tension and I think it's likely due to my bite!
                Hopefully today's epigenetic orthodontics palate expanders are a bit kinder than the standard one I had! I have a distinct memory of running down the street when it came time to crank mine open a bit more, with my mom chasing behind me with the key

                I do still have chronic shoulder tension and forward head posture. I wonder if my bottom jaw needs help too!
                The Primal Holla! Eating fat. Getting lean. Being awesome.

                You were sick, but now you're well, and there's work to do. - Kilgore Trout

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                • #9
                  Thank you for posting this. My older daughter had an upper palate expander and braces when she was about 16. My youngest is now 10 and also has a very narrow jaw and has been having preliminary visits with an orthodontist. I'm going to take your info with me on her next checkup.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by theholla View Post
                    Hopefully today's epigenetic orthodontics palate expanders are a bit kinder than the standard one I had! I have a distinct memory of running down the street when it came time to crank mine open a bit more, with my mom chasing behind me with the key
                    I never had to chase my daughter down to crank hers open more, but one time it did actually snap and shot a piece of wire into her palate. We had to make an emergency visit to our regular dentist to get it removed as the orthodontist was an hour away.
                    Newcomers: If you haven't read the book, at least read this thread ... and all the links!
                    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread17722.html

                    F/49/5'4"
                    Jan. 1, 2011: 186.6 lbs PBSW Mar. 1, 2011: 175.8 lbs
                    CW: 146.8 lbs
                    GW 140 lbs
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                    • #11
                      *sigh* my teeth are f*cked, I did browse around this area but got disheartened at the lack of UK practitioners (or even knowing what worked etc). Will read your blog post now, thank you

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by theholla View Post
                        Hopefully today's epigenetic orthodontics palate expanders are a bit kinder than the standard one I had! I have a distinct memory of running down the street when it came time to crank mine open a bit more, with my mom chasing behind me with the key

                        I do still have chronic shoulder tension and forward head posture. I wonder if my bottom jaw needs help too!

                        These are different than the rapid palate expanders that are used on kids. They use very light force and most of them are only worn at night. They're not painful. If your top jaw needed expanding, it's likely that your bottom jaw did too.
                        http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NorthernMonkeyGirl View Post
                          *sigh* my teeth are f*cked, I did browse around this area but got disheartened at the lack of UK practitioners (or even knowing what worked etc). Will read your blog post now, thank you
                          The Homeoblock and DNA appliances both list UK practitioners and I know that the Orthotropics site is based in the UK: In fact, this type of treatment originated in the UK and is much more widely used throughout Europe than it is in the U.S.
                          http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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                          • #14
                            Well that's even worse; there IS a UK pratitioner but she's on completely the wrong part of the country...

                            ETA - missed your post there, wil look at the Orthotropics

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                            • #15
                              Is there anyway of fixing the uneven wear of the teeth too? If I line my jaws up like a herpes device would do, I have big holes in the molar areas. I'd love to do this since it might fix my neck spasms which I never knew what caused, and my difficulty sleeping. I have an overbite. This is quite expensive unfortunately and combined with crowns (I assume that's how you replace lost teeth) it could cost up to 10000 I would think. I really doubt insurance would cover it. The sleep difficulty and neck spasm may help with insurance, not sure.
                              My journal where I attempt to overcome Chrohns and make good food as well

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