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  • #16
    Originally posted by strom View Post
    Is there anyway of fixing the uneven wear of the teeth too? If I line my jaws up like a herpes device would do, I have big holes in the molar areas. I'd love to do this since it might fix my neck spasms which I never knew what caused, and my difficulty sleeping. I have an overbite. This is quite expensive unfortunately and combined with crowns (I assume that's how you replace lost teeth) it could cost up to 10000 I would think. I really doubt insurance would cover it. The sleep difficulty and neck spasm may help with insurance, not sure.
    I'm not really sure- I guess you'd have to get a consult. You can also get bridges if you have lost teeth.
    Dental insurance will cover appliances (although it seems to average about $1500 worth of coverage, which doesn't go tat far...)
    http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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    • #17
      interesting post hazyjane, I just added you to my reader. I had no idea that this type of technology existed for adults. I had a rhinoplasty that vastly improved my breathing. When I was younger I had braces and headgear to correct my jaw alignment. These are just the issues that were corrected, I can only imagine the impact of having had better facial development overall.

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      • #18
        Thanks for the post Hazy,
        I remember having something like that forced on me when I was a teenager to fix a tooth that we getting squeezed, if only I had stuck with it.
        One of the dentists around here that offers the homeoblock, also does the invisalign. Any reason you didnt include it in the write up? Seems very popular, I think its the same idea using a slightly different approach, could be wrong though.
        Either way, might be time for me get a consult, and see if there is still hope for me to reverse the stupidity of my younger days.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by LukeD View Post
          Thanks for the post Hazy,
          I remember having something like that forced on me when I was a teenager to fix a tooth that we getting squeezed, if only I had stuck with it.
          One of the dentists around here that offers the homeoblock, also does the invisalign. Any reason you didnt include it in the write up? Seems very popular, I think its the same idea using a slightly different approach, could be wrong though.
          Either way, might be time for me get a consult, and see if there is still hope for me to reverse the stupidity of my younger days.
          The reason I didn't include Invisalign is because it doesn't really have anything to do with widening the palate and changing the bone structure. It only straightens teeth, just like regular orthodontics. The orthodontic appliances correct the underdeveloped growth (causing new bone growth), and braces/Invisalign don't. It's just completely different.

          It's a nice option for people with a good bite and crooked teeth who need a simple cosmetic fix, but people with bite problems like overbites (like me!) are not candidates for Invisalign.
          http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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          • #20
            So since they claim they fix overbite on their website, without changing the bone structure, I'm assuming the result would be there but on a smaller scale compared to the products you wrote about. I tried to find some comparisons, but haven't had much luck yet.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by LukeD View Post
              So since they claim they fix overbite on their website, without changing the bone structure, I'm assuming the result would be there but on a smaller scale compared to the products you wrote about. I tried to find some comparisons, but haven't had much luck yet.
              They might be able to pull the teeth back a bit, but they don't treat the underlying issue: a lower jaw that is too far back. The appliances actually reposition the lower jaw forward. Invisalign won't reposition the jaw, open up the air passages, correct facial asymmetry, widen the cheekbones or fix TMD and apnea, etc...
              http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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              • #22


                wow, the differences are almost instantaneous.

                when i was a teen, a dentist recommended that i wear some sort of contraption on my jaw at night to bring my lower jaw forward. at the time i was a bit peeved that my dad would think of spending so much $$ on something that was merely cosmetic, so i said that i wasn't going to wear it. maybe i should have listened to the dentist!
                Last edited by Saoirse; 05-22-2011, 11:04 PM.
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                • #23
                  It's so amazing to watch those Tourette's videos! A friend of mine knows a guy with Tourette's and she's told him about this. He wants to get this treatment.
                  http://www.prettyinprimal.blogspot.com

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                  • #24
                    I missed this thread the first time around, but was just searching for what to do with the chins & cheeks & noses & ears & eyes & teeth I'vev messed up in my kids through my pre- and post-natal diets, and found your excellent blog post, Hazy!
                    Originally posted by hazyjane View Post
                    BTW, if you guys want to see something phenomenal that really illustrates how much your jaws can mess you up, watch the Tourette's treatment videos:
                    Dr. Stack - TMJ Pain, TMD Pain, Orthodontics, Fibromyalgia, Sleep Apnea, Virginia, Washington DC, Maryland, VA, MD, DC
                    I wept. I wept. Three of my children have Tourette's, especially after eating SAD at Grandma's house or similar. My sister has it severely. I am going to pay them to do the popsicle stick experiment RIGHT NOW.

                    So have you learned any more about the different methodologies? It sounds like DNA, ALF, & Homeoblock are used for adults, whereas Orthotropics is more for children? Do you know whether one is better than another? I have no idea how to go about evaluating these.

                    I have five children with increasingly bad facial structure (each one worse than the older) who need some jaw guidance as they grow. I've found 2 or 3 local orthodontists - one is one the provider list for three different sites, another is on the AAGO site.
                    5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
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                    • #25
                      Wow! Amazing and it is so nice to see it work instantly. It must be so hard to go through each and every day with tics.

                      MamaGrok- Keep us updated on your kids. How wonderful it would be if your kiddos can get some relief from Tourette's!
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                      CW- 150
                      Goal 120ish

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                      • #26
                        This is phenomenal! My jaw and face are the tiniest bit crooked/unlevel, but both my sisters and my brother have very narrow jaws and have all had braces, while I've never even had a cavity. My older sister's kids all have really narrow jaws too...

                        I'll have to send her your link and see if she cares.

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