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  • #16
    I know two people who've had gastric bypass, and they can't eat sugar without getting sick, so something's going on there. But the bypass people tend to get all kinds of anemia and other hormonal problems. I know a couple successes with banding: my sil had it and has done wonderfully; a colleague has done okay, but still struggles since she still eats too much carb food. Banding can be reversed, which is a plus. I think with obesity at such a raging epidemic, the desire for a quick fix is high. No doubt it will get a lot worse before it gets better.
    This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it. Ralph Waldo Emerson

    Any given day you are surrounded by 10,000 idiots.
    Lao Tsu, founder of Taoism

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    • #17
      I've HAD a gastric bypass. It was for sure the best thing I ever did for myself but it's a TOOL. It's not a magic cure all and of course, people want to treat it that way. IF you do you do what your doctor tells you to do.... you ought to be living on a very healthy diet with the inclusion of vitamins on a daily basis. However, where it goes bad is when people think that they just have the surgery and they're done. No. You still have to make healthy choices and change your behavior. You can 'beat' the surgery easily.

      For me, it was the beginning of a new quest for health. It's been about 18 months and I've steadily made improvements to my life. The surgery helped me lose the weight, and continues to help me in certain ways. For example, my body REJECTS a lot of sugar and carbs. I go into what they call 'dumping' syndrome. If you know that eating that ice cream is going to make you want to die for about an hour afterward, you think a lot longer and harder before you touch it. And yes, I've had to have some major negative feedback programming! (I don't learn so good) I couldn't have done this on my own. I mean, now I can, but I needed a lot of help and I got it with the surgery.

      The other thing I would say is - where are these people who have these horror stories having the surgery? I went to one of the best teams in the country to have it done. I didn't fly down to Mexico to have the cheap surgery where standards about who can have the surgery and how are severely lacking. It's not all equal.

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      • #18
        Kensington: The two people I know, both of whom have had problems, which is not to say they aren't of their own making; one had the surgery here in Philadelphia, the other in upstate NY. In both cases, they are better off for having had the surgery. You stated it nicely, that the surgery is not an easy fix, and the person must follow the protocols for success. But, like many other options for weight loss that I've seen come down the pike for the last forty plus years, many people are not as conscientious as you are, and one hopes that people will really understand the effort that has to go into any successful weight loss program. This actually applies to lots of things beyond gastric bypass. I had major back surgery, and know a couple other people who have, but some people don't follow their therapy and don't get the same results. It is a legitimate concern that if gbs becomes a routine recommendation for Type 2 diabetes the results will reflect the variability in people's willingness to follow through.
        This time, like all times, is a very good one, if we but know what to do with it. Ralph Waldo Emerson

        Any given day you are surrounded by 10,000 idiots.
        Lao Tsu, founder of Taoism

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        • #19
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Digby View Post
            Kensington: The two people I know, both of whom have had problems, which is not to say they aren't of their own making; one had the surgery here in Philadelphia, the other in upstate NY. In both cases, they are better off for having had the surgery. You stated it nicely, that the surgery is not an easy fix, and the person must follow the protocols for success. But, like many other options for weight loss that I've seen come down the pike for the last forty plus years, many people are not as conscientious as you are, and one hopes that people will really understand the effort that has to go into any successful weight loss program. This actually applies to lots of things beyond gastric bypass. I had major back surgery, and know a couple other people who have, but some people don't follow their therapy and don't get the same results. It is a legitimate concern that if gbs becomes a routine recommendation for Type 2 diabetes the results will reflect the variability in people's willingness to follow through.
            Oh you're absolutely right. The surgery is a great tool. People who look at it like a magic fix drive me nuts for two reasons: 1) People who haven't had the surgery think you've taken an easy way out. 2) Many of the people who have the surgery suffer under the delusion that there will be no effort required on their part. I know a lady who had a lap band placed and is now telling me she wants to have the Roux en y Gastric bypass done because she hasn't lost enough weight/regained about half of what she had initially lost. Realistically the protocols for lifestyle following either surgeries are the same. When I asked her if she was doing what she should (lean protein, lots of produce etc), knowing fully well she was not. I was then labeled unsupportive. haha

            All weight loss - no matter how you do it is difficult and you HAVE to commit to making lasting changes in your life to see any manner of success. Nothing is going to do it FOR YOU. That's the bottom line. Doctors should know better. But I suppose touting personal responsibility makes you quite unpopular.

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