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    Can anyone suggest ways to become involved in cutting edge Paleo research? The goal being to eventually help affect change in conventional wisdom...by discovering, compiling, and demonstrating the merits of paleo principles.

    I'm broadly interested in the subject, and would be willing to become a research assistant, take more formal university training, develop a paleo website (ideally creating original content)....etc.

    Put differently, how do I gain expert power and use it to shape society in a positive way?
    Experiencing paleo health benefits oneself, and accepting the basic theory behind them, is something like waking up from the matrix...this shouldn't be so.

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    Become a molecular biologist by day and physical anthropologist by night. Wear a cape.
    You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by goneprimal View Post
      Can anyone suggest ways to become involved in cutting edge Paleo research? The goal being to eventually help affect change in conventional wisdom...by discovering, compiling, and demonstrating the merits of paleo principles.

      I'm broadly interested in the subject, and would be willing to become a research assistant, take more formal university training, develop a paleo website (ideally creating original content)....etc.

      Put differently, how do I gain expert power and use it to shape society in a positive way?
      Experiencing paleo health benefits oneself, and accepting the basic theory behind them, is something like waking up from the matrix...this shouldn't be so.
      Are you around NYC or willing to relocate? John Durant is looking for somebody to help him do research for his book, potentially build a website, etc. www.hunter-gatherer.com
      I used to seriously post here, now I prefer to troll.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by goneprimal View Post
        Can anyone suggest ways to become involved in cutting edge Paleo research? The goal being to eventually help affect change in conventional wisdom...by discovering, compiling, and demonstrating the merits of paleo principles.

        I'm broadly interested in the subject, and would be willing to become a research assistant, take more formal university training, develop a paleo website (ideally creating original content)....etc.

        Put differently, how do I gain expert power and use it to shape society in a positive way?
        Experiencing paleo health benefits oneself, and accepting the basic theory behind them, is something like waking up from the matrix...this shouldn't be so.
        YES ! Start with my Research Report at the bottom of my message. This will get you up to speed on the latest & best medical research from REPUTABLE doctors & other pristine sources such as Universities.

        Best of luck to you,
        Grizz

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        • #5
          iniQuity: That would be ideal....I'm across the continent, working hard and saving to be able to afford to take action...Tim Ferriss style.

          I'm sure someone on these boards would jump at the chance, though....

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Grizz View Post
            YES ! Start with my Research Report at the bottom of my message. This will get you up to speed on the latest & best medical research from REPUTABLE doctors & other pristine sources such as Universities.

            Best of luck to you,
            Grizz
            Thanks Grizz, I'll look into it! You are quite an expert yourself!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by goneprimal View Post
              Can anyone suggest ways to become involved in cutting edge Paleo research? The goal being to eventually help affect change in conventional wisdom...by discovering, compiling, and demonstrating the merits of paleo principles.....
              What I have learned over the past 6 months is totally shocking. There is clearly a conspiracy between government & and the drug/medical professions to make sure people fill hospital beds, fill waiting rooms, and remain sickly. There can be no other conclusion. If the entire population simply took enough vitamin D for optimum 25(OH)D Blood Level of 60-70 ng/ml, major population groups would become healthy. In addition, if everyone went on a Paleo diet, a majority of diabetes & health problems would vanish.

              You will be fighting against City Hall, and this is a losing proposition. The food & drug companies, the AMA & ADA will be fighting against you. A healthy public does not make any money for these groups, and this is all about money. Public Health be damned. Just look at cigarettes, and how little has been done to stop smoking. Governments need those tobacco tax revenues so little is done to stop smoking.

              You will also be fighting against the biggest propaganda machine in history: The Big Food Companies. Our population is brain washed and addicted to unhealthy products. People just won't believe us when we tell them that bread, soda pop, and munchies are unhealthy. Prime example is "Heart Healthy" Oatmeal. Another prime example is the American Diabetes Assn telling their sicko clients to eat from the standard food pyramid (loaded with carbs), which we all know is the WORST possible diet for a diabetic ! Who are WE to argue against a diabetes doctor?

              We are a fringe group of NUT JOBS according to the major media, who depend on advertising dollars. Welcome to the fight. I'm not giving up the fight and I hope you don't either. We need every person to help spread the gospel on Vitamin D and the Paleo Diet.

              Grizz
              Last edited by Grizz; 12-10-2010, 01:03 PM.

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              • #8
                This thread sounds, in all honesty, incredibly silly

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                • #9
                  What's your current background? What sort of education do you have, and what do you currently do for a living? What are your strengths?

                  I've had the same thoughts as you - now that I'm so interested in health and nutrition, I feel like I should be putting my effort toward expanding that body of knowledge. I'm coming at it as a scientist who is already halfway through a PhD in biochemistry, so it's a completely different issue for me, but I can relate to the urge to contribute. =]

                  The internet is flooded with paleo/primal blogs (I know because I've got like 13028309128 of them in my RSS reader) and there are new books coming out every day. So if your goal was to just advance the awareness of these ideas, it would be rough right now, unless you've got a new creative angle to take or you're a particularly excellent writer.

                  Do you have any science background? Not necessarily biology... maybe a bachelors degree in a physical science or engineering or something? I think we could use more people to analyze the newest research and write about it in easier-to-understand ways. I don't have time to read all the papers I'd like to read, or even to discover their existence, so I love blogs that tell me about them (people like Chris Masterjohn, Ned Kock, Emily Deans, etc). There are new papers coming out all the time that could stand to be disseminated to the public.

                  If you actually want to develop NEW knowledge, you could approach it from either the sciences or the "social sciences," but either way you're probably gonna have to go back to school. There are lots of scientific fields that could lead you there - biochemistry, molecular biology, genetics, medical chemistry, computational biology, many more I'm not thinking of right now. Something like anthropology could lead you into studying modern hunter-gatherers, or historical information about health and diets... I know nothing about that stuff so I'm just guessing.
                  "mayness, you need to have a siggy line that says "Paleo Information Desk" or something!" -FMN <3

                  I'm blogging again, at least a little bit.

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                  • #10
                    Grizz, I hate to encourage conspiracy theories, but this article is a must-read:

                    http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...edicine-201101

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by aktres View Post
                      Grizz, I hate to encourage conspiracy theories, but this article is a must-read:

                      http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/f...edicine-201101
                      That is a great article. The Drug Companies MAKE ME SICK ! So does the AMA & ADA !

                      The best thing we can do for ourselves is the Paleo Diet, 10,000 IU Vitamin D3, and multi-vitamins.
                      Plenty of rest, exercise and stay Healthy to avoid the medical/drug cartels.

                      Grizz

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                      • #12
                        Not sure if anyone has linked to this one:

                        Atlantic Magazine: Lies and Medical Science

                        And this is particularly clarifying:

                        Modern Medicine is Killing You

                        No, it may not be a "conscious" conspiracy, but the system is so broken that the result is the same as if it really were the Great Medical Conspiracy. A growing number of doctors see through it. And medical students, thank goodness. Many medical schools around the country (my fiance's included) now have student chapters of the American Medical Students Assoc. Pharm-Free:

                        "Thanks in part to its medical students in Sacramento, UC Davis Health System has now established tough new guidelines that will ban employees and students from accepting free drug samples, food, beverages, pens, notepads and other marketing items. It also bans sales representatives from serving in preceptorships at the health system. Preceptor-ships allow drug company employees, for a fee, to accompany doctors during patient visits, providing the opportunity for the representatives to deepen their relationships with physicians.

                        The new rules at UC Davis are aimed at reducing the influence drug marketing can have on current and future physicians and other medical staff.

                        Ann Madden Rice, chief executive of UC Davis Medical Center, credits the medical students for developing the new guidelines, which go into effect July 1 throughout the health system."

                        This is happening all across the country. Keep the hope!

                        Also, you can always contact Loren Cordain at Colorado State to see if he has any research needs. Here is a thread about a Paleo study one of his grad students is putting together, and they are looking for volunteers for the research:

                        Cordain Research Thread
                        ~ Ex-Herbivore Goes Carnivore: Jazmin's PB Journal ~

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                        • #13
                          Does anyone else think that stronger forces for change come from 'the bottom up'?

                          Dr to patient: "I'm a little worried about your high cholesterol, so take this statin and everything'll be fine."
                          Patient to Dr: "No, thank you. I've done the research and know that statins have no proven benefits for people of my age/ sex/ history. Also, were my LDL levels actually measured, or just calculated?"

                          Multiply that a few times, and there will be a whole lot less market demand for easily-buried trials performed on people whose consent is scandalously uninformed. To say nothing of all the people who will just not be showing up in the doctor's office in the first place, because they heard from their aunt who heard from her friend who heard from her brother who'd met someone at work who lost the weight and got healthy doing this 'Primal' thing...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by goneprimal
                            The goal being to eventually help affect change in conventional wisdom...by discovering, compiling, and demonstrating the merits of paleo principles.

                            Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                            What I have learned over the past 6 months is totally shocking. There is clearly a conspiracy between government & and the drug/medical professions to make sure people fill hospital beds, fill waiting rooms, and remain sickly. There can be no other conclusion. If the entire population simply took enough vitamin D for optimum 25(OH)D Blood Level of 60-70 ng/ml, major population groups would become healthy. In addition, if everyone went on a Paleo diet, a majority of diabetes & health problems would vanish.

                            You will be fighting against City Hall, and this is a losing proposition. The food & drug companies, the AMA & ADA will be fighting against you. A healthy public does not make any money for these groups, and this is all about money. Public Health be damned. Just look at cigarettes, and how little has been done to stop smoking. Governments need those tobacco tax revenues so little is done to stop smoking.

                            You will also be fighting against the biggest propaganda machine in history: The Big Food Companies. Our population is brain washed and addicted to unhealthy products. People just won't believe us when we tell them that bread, soda pop, and munchies are unhealthy. Prime example is "Heart Healthy" Oatmeal. Another prime example is the American Diabetes Assn telling their sicko clients to eat from the standard food pyramid (loaded with carbs), which we all know is the WORST possible diet for a diabetic ! Who are WE to argue against a diabetes doctor?

                            We are a fringe group of NUT JOBS according to the major media, who depend on advertising dollars. Welcome to the fight. I'm not giving up the fight and I hope you don't either. We need every person to help spread the gospel on Vitamin D and the Paleo Diet.

                            Grizz
                            I was going to answer your question the same way Grizz has but without all those freakin words.
                            Get into politics. That's the only way you will influence conventional wisdom. People don't look at science, they look to their government to tell them what they need to do. Which is retarded, but I digress.
                            People too weak to follow their own dreams will always try to discourage others.

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