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  • Vitamin D proven far better than vaccines at preventing influenza infections

    http://www.naturalnews.com/029760_vi...influenza.html
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  • #2
    Just a side thought, my asthma has been much better since I've been dosing up on Vit D - I cant remember the last time I took a puff on my ventolin inhaler??. On the other hand, I never used to notice a lessening during the summer when I was getting natural vit D????

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    • #3
      Suse, perhaps you weren't getting as much D from the sun as you thought you were?

      Glad your asthma is so much better. I'll remember that, and tell any asthma sufferer I bump into about it. Maybe it will work for others as well as it does for you.

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      • #4
        PDL, you could be right about not enough D in the summer. Re my asthma, I think substantial decrease in the grains has also helped in this area as well. As I say, I've definitely noticed an improvement and I cant believe that I suddenly grew out of it at age 48!

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        • #5
          I also just discovered a link between low levels of Vitamin D and DIABETES ! ! !

          Additional Information just found:
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          Why waste money on vitamin D pills at all?

          FOODS HIGH IN VITAMIN D
          ============================
          1) Shitake & Button Mushrooms
          2) 3.5 Ozs Mackerel supplies 90%
          3) 3.5 Ozs Salmon supplies 90%
          4) Herring - loaded with vit D
          5) Sardines - 1 tin supplies 70%
          6) Catfish - Loaded with Vit D
          7) Tuna fish - 3 ozs supplies 50%
          8) Cod Liver Oil - 1 Tbl spoon = 10,000 Units of Vit D (300%), loaded with more health benefits, see link
          9) Eggs - 10% of vit D per egg
          10) 1 cup milk - 25% of vit D
          11) Krill Oil 54 x more powerful than fish oil in Vit D
          12) Many Foods Fortified in Vit D include yogurt, cerials, etc - See links

          Vitamin D is vital for cardiovascular, bone, mental health, and plays a role in cancer prevention.
          Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/25...#ixzz0zs0NFgMj
          * The prevention of chronic diseases such as many forms of cancer, osteoporosis, diabetes, heart disease, hypertension.
          * The protection and lubrication of your bones, teeth and hair.
          * The regulation of cellular growth and healthy cell activity
          * Overall reduction of the inflammatory response, a condition known to cause many chronic diseases, from cancer to diabetes to obesity.
          * Protection against adult osteoporosis
          * Reduction in the risk of breast cancer in perimenopausal women
          * Significant reduction in the occurrence of prostate cancer in African-American men
          http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/n...ing-vitamin-d/
          http://www.livestrong.com/article/25...ain-vitamin-d/

          AMAZING BENEFITS OF KRILL OIL
          =======================
          Krill Oil supplements are a SUPER FOODS that supply not only ALL of our Vitamin D Requirements, but also rich in omega-3 fatty acids and many additional benefits. NOTE Krill Oil does not suffer the risks of mercury and pesticides.
          http://krilloil.com/krill-oil-benefits.html
          Just take a Krill oil Supplement and call it a day!

          Grizz
          Last edited by Grizz; 09-18-2010, 02:32 AM.

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          • #6
            Good post Grizz. On a side note I'd be wary of anything "fortified" with Vitamin D, or any other substance. Keep in mind that the food manufacturers (an apt title the more I think of it) are going to be looking at maximizing profit, and they'll be sourcing their ingredients as cheaply as possible. That doesn't work out too well for the person ingesting it, most of the time.

            Case in point: attending a presentation from a supplement vendor, I heard how great their calcium tablets were. They had huge amounts of calcium, tests showed that people who took them had higher amounts of calcium in their blood than any other supplement, and amazingly they were awesome sleep aids. She told us if we were having trouble sleeping, pop a couple of calcium tabs before bed. They were "all natural" too.

            I took a look at the label on the bottle and saw what the source of the calcium was : calcium carbonate. Ring a bell? Its chalk. Simple ground up challk powder. Of course it'll put you to sleep - your body is trying to digest powdered rocks. Where will it find energy to stay awake?

            So technically, this was a good calcium supplement. Any assays would show high levels of calcium in the tabs. It just wasn't bioavailable. But at least its cheap. Ever wonder why most "vitamin-enriched" foods have high levels of B vitamins over anything else? Its not because we need them more than anything else. Its because B vitamins are the cheapest to generate in the lab.

            My point, of course, is that drinking milk to get vitamin D is really not a good idea. Then again, drinking pasteurized milk to get anything other than sick isn't a good idea either.

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            • #7
              Foods fortified with Vit D (namely mushrooms and milk) do not have anything added to them. The foods are just exposed to brief, but high intensity UV light. The food naturally converts cholesterols already present into Vitamin D. Mushrooms are one of the only fungal sources of Vit D.

              it's not really a supplement... it is something the food naturally does... just triggered in a non-natural way. i am hesitant to say it is not primal... simply because you can emulate the same process by exposing your mushrooms to sunlight before eating them.

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              • #8
                I don't know about mushrooms, but your enrichment of milk is missing quite a few steps. Milk has both naturally occurring and industrially added D, and simply exposing milk to UV of any duration isn't going to produce D. The D added to milk is made from outside sources of cholesterol. What is already in the milk is the result of the phytochemical reaction you may be thinking of, that is UV stimulation of the skin of the milk producing cow.

                A great primer on the subject:

                http://vitamind.ucr.edu/milk.html

                Interesting to note that Professor Norman mentions the two largest producers of synthesized D are LaRoche (pharmaceuticals) and BASF (an industrial giant that makes, among other things, automotive coatings). Prof Norman points out that even though labels require disclosure of ingredients, we have no way of knowing the original sources of those ingredients, which is my original point.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Maleficarum View Post
                  Foods fortified with Vit D (namely mushrooms and milk) do not have anything added to them. The foods are just exposed to brief, but high intensity UV light. The food naturally converts cholesterols already present into Vitamin D. Mushrooms are one of the only fungal sources of Vit D.
                  Mushrooms have naturally occuring D2 - by definition, they are not fortified since it occurs naturally. It is not helpful for raising serum D levels.

                  Milk is fortified with vitamin added D3 directly.
                  Last edited by cillakat; 09-18-2010, 09:26 AM.



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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                    I also just discovered a link between low levels of Vitamin D and DIABETES ! ! !

                    Additional Information just found:
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                    Why waste money on vitamin D pills at all?
                    Because none of the foods you mentioned supplies more than a few hundred IU's of vitamin D per day.

                    And we need about 1000 IU per 25 lbs body weight per day to maintain levels in the middle of the reference range. Some need more, some need less...which is why testing is critical.

                    Please see my linked D doc below for accurate information regarding levels and testing.

                    Krill has little to no D depending on who you read. It's great for other things though.

                    K



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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Grizz View Post
                      I also just discovered a link between low levels of Vitamin D and DIABETES ! ! !
                      Did you now?

                      Funny, I thought it was these guys:

                      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11705562
                      Intake of vitamin D and risk of type 1 diabetes: a birth-cohort study.

                      Hyppönen E, Läärä E, Reunanen A, Järvelin MR, Virtanen SM.
                      Department of Paediatric Epidemiology and Biostatistics, Institute of Child Health, WC1N 1EH, London, UK. e.hypponen@ich.ucl.ac.uk
                      Comment in:




                      BACKGROUND: Dietary vitamin D supplementation is associated with reduced risk of type 1 diabetes in animals. Our aim was to ascertain whether or not vitamin D supplementation or deficiency in infancy could affect development of type 1 diabetes.


                      METHODS: A birth-cohort study was done, in which all pregnant women (n=12055) in Oulu and Lapland, northern Finland, who were due to give birth in 1966 were enrolled. Data was collected in the first year of life about frequency and dose of vitamin D supplementation and presence of suspected rickets. Our primary outcome measure was diagnosis of type 1 diabetes by end of December, 1997.
                      FINDINGS: 12058 of 12231 represented live births, and 10821 (91% of those alive) children were followed-up at age 1 year. Of the 10366 children included in analyses, 81 were diagnosed with diabetes during the study. Vitamin D supplementation was associated with a decreased frequency of type 1 diabetes when adjusted for neonatal, anthropometric, and social characteristics (rate ratio [RR] for regular vs no supplementation 0.12, 95% CI 0.03-0.51, and irregular vs no supplementation 0.16, 0.04-0.74. Children who regularly took the recommended dose of vitamin D (2000 IU daily) had a RR of 0.22 (0.05-0.89) compared with those who regularly received less than the recommended amount. Children suspected of having rickets during the first year of life had a RR of 3.0 (1.0-9.0) compared with those without such a suspicion.


                      INTERPRETATION: Dietary vitamin D supplementation is associated with reduced risk of type 1 diabetes. Ensuring adequate vitamin D supplementation for infants could help to reverse the increasing trend in the incidence of type 1 diabetes.




                      The relative importance of modifiable potential risk factors of type 2 diabetes: a meta-analysis of two cohorts. Eur J Epidemiol.

                      Interaction of vitamin D receptor with HLA DRB1 0301 in type 1 diabetes patients from North India. PLoS One. 2009 Dec 2;4(12):e8023.

                      Diabetes and fractures: an overshadowed association. Curr Opin Endocrinol Diabetes Obes. 2009 Dec;16(6):435–45.

                      Low levels of vitamin D in North Indian children with newly diagnosed type 1 diabetes. Pediatr Diabetes. 2009 Nov 9.

                      Vitamin D receptor gene polymorphisms and susceptibility to type 1 diabetes in Crete, Greece. Clin Immunol. 2009 Nov;133(2):276–81.



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                      • #12
                        Yeah the need for lots and lots of it is more evident now.400IUs? Wtf were they thinking? Carlson has a new version with 4000IU per cap that I'm using. It's kind of funny to see all of the 400 and 1000 ones in the store.
                        Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

                        Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Stabby View Post
                          It's kind of funny to see all of the 400 and 1000 ones in the store.
                          Times are a' changin' though. Locally, I can now get up to 10,000 IU caps.

                          Still love my Nature's Answer D3 drops though.



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                          • #14
                            This is interesting to me because I've been supplementing with D3 (Carlson's) for about a year. All last winter, I never had a cold, not even the sniffles, and I used to have at least 2 each winter.

                            Last week, a woman I tutor (Literacy Volunteers) showed up with a terrible head cold. Not only did we work together in close proximity for over an hour, but I inadventently used the same pencil during our session. The next afternoon, I found myself sneezing and feeling congested with a slight cough. I though "Uh, oh, I've picked up her cold." But that was the extent of my 'symptoms.' I was a little tired that day, but I've been just find ever since.

                            I hope it's the D!

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                            • #15
                              I'd say it is. I put a member of my family on D3, and they've gone from a cold every other month to no cold symptoms at all for over a year.

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