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    We had a thread on here a while back about women and chemical contraception, so I thought this would be interesting for many of you.

    (Natural News) In today's society, much of the burden of birth control involves chemicals, drugs and often falls upon the women. However, it turns out the key to birth control might be better placed on men. And the good news is, you don't have to look any further than hot water and papaya seeds.

    It turns out that sperm don't like heat and by bathing, or simply submerging the testes, in 116 degrees water (just below the pain threshold) for forty five minutes each day for 21 days, a male becomes sterile for the next six months. Doing this at 110 degrees reliably produces sterility for the next four months and either way, it can be repeated for continued effectiveness when the allotted time is up. This method dates back to the writings of Hippocrates and derives its effectiveness from the fact that sperm needs to be several degrees cooler than body temperature to be viable; this is why they hang outside the body. Actually, sperm cell death happens at 95 degrees F, while normal cell death happens at 108 degrees F - so this method effectively kills the sperm for a limited but extended period of time.

    In addition, papaya seeds have been found to completely remove the sperm from a male monkey's ejaculation. Rats have also been tested with a compound from papaya seeds and found to have "significantly reduced" sperm counts. At higher levels of ingestion, the rats became completely infertile. The rats' researchers then declared the long term, daily use of compounds from papaya seeds to be a safe and effective male contraceptive.

    Rabbits have also been studied with extracts from papaya seeds. After three months of daily use, the rabbits were found almost completely infertile. The extract showed no effect on their libido or organs - and the contraceptive effects were completely reversible after 45 days of non-use.

    Traditional cultures in Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka and Southeast Asia have long eaten papaya seeds as an effective and safe contraceptive. It appears a teaspoon of the seeds per day is what traditional cultures use - and it takes three months of use to be fully effective. Papaya seeds have been studied more frequently on males than females as a form of contraception, but traditional cultures have used papaya seeds for both male and female contraception.

    For a simple papaya seed drink:
    Blend 1/2 papaya, 2 or 3 bananas and 20-40 papaya seeds. Add a little stevia for sweetness, if desired. Other fruit can be substituted, as desired.

    Some Hawaiian papaya these days is genetically modified, so purchase papaya that wasn't grown in Hawaii or simply buy organic. Papaya seeds are also antibacterial, help with parasitic problems, and are rich in enzymes.
    Discuss!

  • #2
    Seriously!? I would be scared to death to trust this without getting counts tested, etc. That would be one heckuva 'Surprise!' if it didn't work. Although if I could get proof it worked - I would totally be on board to let my hubby take care of the BC.

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    • #3
      If I KNEW it worked in my husband, I'd have no issue doubling up the BC or (maybe) letting him take care of it. At the moment, it's too iffy.
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      • #4
        Boil my balls? Okay!
        You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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        • #5
          Cool! If you guys are game I am too.
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          • #6
            Although this is probably a better way to go since I'm not crazy about having the stuff in female birth control in my local water supply.
            You lousy kids! Get off my savannah!

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            • #7
              This is very interesting. I have a copper coil inserted as my method of contraception, but it's only 96% effective and I'm nervous about getting pregnant. maybe I'll start slipping some papaya seeds into my husband's meals.

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              • #8
                "The rats' researchers then declared the long term, daily use of compounds from papaya seeds to be a safe and effective male contraceptive."

                Hmmmm, "safe" for rats, I guess. And I don't get the impression they really had the data to address "long term" either.

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                • #9
                  Smoking a whole lot of pot also reduces sperm count. Just sayin'.

                  Gotta be careful with those swimming rascals: Primal living increases both sex drive and fertility. Next thing you know, the cave is overrun with ankle biters.
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                  • #10
                    I've heard of the ball-boiling research before, in a college psychology class we watched a video and it was on it, im not sure i can spend 45minutes a day with my balls in boiling water, that seems like a big commitment. Maybe i can make a chair with a cup for my balls and a bunson burner underneath it so i can play video games while my boy's soak.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by StoneAgeQueen View Post
                      This is very interesting. I have a copper coil inserted as my method of contraception, but it's only 96% effective
                      Is the coil shape really that much less effective than the copper T? Both of the T shapes currently available in the US (copper and mirena) are 99% effective.

                      *crosses fingers for you*



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                      • #12
                        http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/j...TRY=1&SRETRY=0
                        The concept that an elevation of testicular temperature results in impairment of spermatogenesis is widely accepted. Here, current knowledge concerning genital heat stress and its consequences in men is reviewed. Duration of sitting during work positively correlates with daytime scrotal temperatures and daytime scrotal temperature negatively correlates with semen quality. However, the assumed negative correlation between duration of sitting and semen quality could not be shown in the available studies. Fertility parameters of professional drivers with long periods of sitting in vehicles were impaired; however, for predominantly affected drivers of vans, trucks or industrial heavy machinery potential confounders have to be considered. Wearing tight fitting compared with loose-fitting underwear is associated with significantly higher scrotal temperatures. However, available observations suggesting a link between tight-fitting underwear or trousers and impaired semen quality are not convincing. Studies addressing professional exposure to high temperatures delivered conflicting results concerning fertility parameters. The postulated negative impact of sauna visits on semen quality is not sufficiently underlined by the available studies. Oligozoospermic men with a varicocele have significantly higher scrotal temperatures than normozoospermic men, and according to several studies varicocelectomy normalises scrotal temperatures. A further link has been reported between fever and deteriorated semen quality. Contraception via genital heat stress has been demonstrated using hot sitting baths or insulating suspensors. However, down-regulation of spermatogenesis is inconsistent and unsafe. On the other hand, scrotal and consecutively testicular cooling is able to improve semen quality.

                        http://www.contraceptionjournal.org/...109-2/abstract
                        http://journals.lww.com/greenjournal...cortal.11.aspx



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                        • #13
                          Why not just practice coitus interruptus? Yeah, I know it's not the same that way, but it's still good

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                          • #14
                            I don't think contraception can ever be natural. The whole idea is anathema to life and nature.
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                            • #15
                              Sheep intestine condoms are probably the most primal of the modern options. Well, fertility awareness method (FAM) is as well. It uses rhythm method in addition to tracking cervical position and cervical fluid. During one's fertile time, intercourse can either be avoided (extremely difficult in my experience) or other birth control can be used. So back to the sheep intestine condoms......they're definitely more pleasant than latex condoms but they are expensive and are best for monogamous relationships as they do not offer STD protection.

                              I know this is a bit OT, but it's *very* biologically appropriate, primal and natural.
                              Breastfeeding as contraception - aka Lactational Amenorrhea Method (LAM)

                              http://www.fhi.org/en/rh/pubs/factsh...astfeeding.htm
                              In 1988, a group of scientists met in Bellagio, Italy to define a set of guidelines that a woman could use to predict her return to fertility during breastfeeding. The scientists reviewed data from studies regarding return to fertility and determined that breastfeeding can provide up to 98% effective contraception if three criteria are met:

                              * The mother has not experienced the return of her menstrual periods (bleeding up to the 56th postpartum day is considered part of the postpartum recovery process and is not counted as menstrual bleeding);
                              * The mother is fully or nearly fully breastfeeding; and
                              * The baby is less than six months old.

                              ....snip....

                              Of the three LAM criteria, the return of menses is the most important indicator of fertility. The studies conducted by Family Health International in Pakistan and the Philippines have shown that pregnancy is rare even beyond six months and the end of full breastfeeding among women who do not experience vaginal bleeding. Only 1.1% of the women in Pakistan and 2.6% of the women in the Philippines conceived during 12 months of lactational amenorrhea.

                              The pattern of breastfeeding exerts a strong effect on the resumption of menstruation and fertility. However, defining what is meant by "full" breastfeeding can be difficult. The following definitions are currently being used by family planning counselors who are teaching LAM:

                              * Full breastfeeding can be exclusive (no other liquid or solid is given to the infant) or almost exclusive (vitamins, water, juice or ritualistic feeds are given infrequently to the infant).
                              * Nearly full breastfeeding means that the vast majority of feeds (at least 85%) are breastfeeds. There can be some supplementation with another liquid or food, but supplementation never replaces or delays a breastfeed.



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