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  • Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
    Gah!

    I'm on another totally unrelated message board, and someone posted that they needed a great butter substitute. There were quite a few people going on about how great "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter", canola oil and various other crap is. There were a few rooting for real butter, but even they were saying to cut back - seriously, to half a stick a month???

    When asked why she needed to cut back, she said her mom had a heart attack. Well, I'm pretty sure it wasn't the butter, but I gently suggested she stick with real butter, preferably from grass-fed cows. Avoid seed oils because (among other things) they turn rancid very quickly. And that good fat doesn't cause heart disease.

    I'm waiting for the flame throwers from the low-fat crowd there.
    Linky, I wants to see shit fly. And yes I typed it that way on purpose.
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    • This one saddens me:

      We've been experiencing temps in the high 90s and low hundreds in the eastern U.S. this week. A local news network was running a story about a track and field event for children that was held yesterday, and the organizer of the event was asked what they were doing to protect the children from the heat.

      Her response: "We've got Gatorade. And we've got plenty of juice."

      This morning, it was reported that two kids at that event were taken to the hospital via ambulance due to the heat.

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      • I'm only a month into Primal Blueprint, and I'm already tired of dealing with my family's CW resistance. My entire family is out of shape, stepdad and grandfather are morbidly obese, my little brothers (10 and 12) have guts, etc. I was 310 lbs until last year when I removed myself from their dinner table, so to say.

        Anyway, I'm really debating how I can help my grandfather fix his diet. He doesn't need to go primal as much as he needs to just not eat as terrible as he does currently. He's doing weight watchers, which means that as long as he is at or under his point allotment, he can eat whatever he wants. He's dropped a little weight just from eating less, but I hate the program because it doesn't teach him anything about nutrition. It doesn't even teach caloric restriction. It just assigns arbitrary values to food products. A daily menu looks like: Two bagels with margarine for breakfast and a tall glass of 2% milk. Cup of coffee with milk and sweet n low. Pretzel or hamburger for lunch. Fried (in vegetable oil) bologna sandwich on white bread with tons of ketchup and a glass of diet root beer. With a sleeve of saltines and "reduced fat" peanut butter for a bedtime snack. Other staples include chicken breast (fine) COVERED in ketchup, box-powdered mashed potatoes, donuts, sugary cereal, etc. Yesterday at dinner he got a salad with grilled chicken. He turns his nose up to all vegetables, but he choked down the salad. He covered it in "fat free" ranch dressing and then took the discarded bun from my chicken sandwich and used it to sop up the extra dressing. IT KILLED ME!

        He'll say things to me like: "Do you want me to cut the fat off that steak before you cook it?" "Oh, I don't really want bacon for breakfast. I'll just have a bagel." And he thinks that margarine > butter, 2% milk > whole fat, fat free peanut butter > full fat PB, etc. I don't think he puts anything in his mouth that DOESN'T spike his insulin. Every health indicator is poor and it kills me inside. He's on a lot of medications and vitamins, but he doesn't realize that diet is probably 99% of what is wrong.

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        • I'm in the east too, and it looks like it should stop hitting 100 soon. The couple of times I had to drive to work sucked because my car has no A/C. I don't think I've had so much water my entire life.

          I spent my night last night internet arguing (pointless really) with people about an article about giving Metformin to young girls at risk with fertility problems later in life from PCOS. I don't have it myself, but I know that those here on the site that do have found help with this WOE.

          A few were wondering about treating with diet instead of meds because not everyone wants to give meds to their little girls. There were two people trying to convince others that diet and nutrition don't matter or help because they don't effect hormones! I couldn't believe it. Maybe it isn't quite CW stupid, but I felt bad for the people being told that diet won't help them lose the weight or control the PCOS symptoms. Needless to say I tried to direct them here and look up the threads about it.

          I mean, diet doesn't effect hormones? Diabetics might want to know about that...

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          • Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
            Gah!

            I'm on another totally unrelated message board, and someone posted that they needed a great butter substitute. There were quite a few people going on about how great "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter", canola oil and various other crap is. There were a few rooting for real butter, but even they were saying to cut back - seriously, to half a stick a month???

            When asked why she needed to cut back, she said her mom had a heart attack. Well, I'm pretty sure it wasn't the butter, but I gently suggested she stick with real butter, preferably from grass-fed cows. Avoid seed oils because (among other things) they turn rancid very quickly. And that good fat doesn't cause heart disease.

            I'm waiting for the flame throwers from the low-fat crowd there.
            Cheering you on.

            You have everyone's taste-buds on your side. Mum-in-law had followed CW advice and replaced butter with assorted 'spreads' for years. She stays with us over Christmas, eats butter because that's what I have in the fridge, and it's a revelation to her how good it tastes. So - no more yellow vegetable oil slime for her, hooray. (The rest of her diet is rubbish enough that this isn't going to make any material difference, but I'm happy she gets to eat something that tastes good.)

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            • Not a CW moment as such but...

              I ordered a butternut squash and halloumi salad for my lunch and asked for it to come without the soy and balsamic dressing it was advertised with. It turns up with a load of lentils on!! Had to pick around the lentils - was pissed seeing as that wasn't on the menu.
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              • It seems they're just plain ignoring me on the Butter Is Satan board, probably because I had the audacity to say I should be allowed to legally buy raw milk too, and that was just blasphemy.

                sigh

                Guess I'm not allowed in the Fat And Tired Girls Club anymore...
                Durp.

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                • I remember while traveling in Arkansas, we stopped at a restaurant for dinner. I asked what the vegetable of the day was.. I was told rice. ummm really?!
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                  • Originally posted by CoS View Post
                    fat free peanut butter > full fat PB,
                    Fat free peanut butter exists?

                    Wait... don't tell me. Let me guess. They press out all the peanut oil and replace it with HFCS?

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                    • Originally posted by FlyNavyWife View Post
                      Teri thanks for the brand names.


                      Maba, I honestly doubt the doc will be sensible. I mean, the magazine thingy they gave me today said to eat whole grains, fruits and vegs, lean protein, and low-fat dairy. The Department of Defense book (it's a military hospital) mostly said to eat "healthy foods" but at one point it actually wrote out the standard food pyramid as the official recommendation for pregnant women, beginning with 6-11 servings of grains and topped off with very little fat/oils.
                      We have those brands and also the Greek Gods brand that is full fat greek yogurt. So much cheaper than Fage too! You might check that as well.
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                      • Originally posted by Twibble View Post
                        This was at Cracker Barrel. We went there for breakfast, and I was getting bacon and sausage and eggs.

                        I asked the waitress to leave the toast off, because I can't have wheat.

                        Her answer? "Oh honey, we have white bread too."
                        they also say rice is a vegetable LOL
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                        • I was eating lunch with some coworkers today, and I ordered a burger with bacon, blue cheese, and no bun. One of my coworkers asked why I didn't get a bun, so I told her that I don't eat grains. She replied, "But they've got more than one kind of bun. Just get wheat or rye or something."

                          I was about to reply to her suggestion, when another coworker asked why I don't eat grains. I decided to take a chance and started explaining the science behind why grains are unhealthy, mentioning gluten, lectins, etc., but his face grew more and more confused, so I switched tactics and said, "Grains make me sick."

                          He looked at me blankly for a second and then said, "Ohhhhhhhh...That would be hard!"

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                          • I was checking the local weather on weather.com and saw this ad "Which Veggietable Kills Fat: Choose one" the options: Corn or Cabbage.

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                            • Originally posted by athomeontherange View Post
                              they also say rice is a vegetable LOL

                              In what world is rice a vegetable?!

                              That's like saying fries are a vegetable...
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                              • Originally posted by sarah1990 View Post
                                In what world is rice a vegetable?!

                                That's like saying fries are a vegetable...
                                Well if you kind of think about it, potatoes are a vegetable, they're fried in vegetable oil, and eventually coated in a healthy tomato concoction called ketchup. There isn't a single thing about them that doesn't have something to do with vegetables!

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