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  • Dogs and cats can have grain intolerances, too.

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    • Originally posted by Primbel View Post
      Me: I know it's popular belief that eating loads of meat isn't healthy, but when you think about it, it has tons of nutrients and I've never heard of anyone being allergic to meat either.
      Interesting news story I heard this past week - apparently a certain tick's bite has been linked to actually make you allergic to meat.

      Meat Allergy in Kids Tied to Tick Bites - ABC News

      They had reactions anywhere from a rash to anaphylactic shock a few hours after eating meat. They're still looking for the direct link between the two things. According to the story:

      Most of the kids in the study developed a rash at the site of the tick bite before reacting to red meat, and all but six of them also tested positive for alpha-gal antibodies -- blood proteins that react to a sugar found in meat. But Commins said it's tough to make a definitive link between the tick and the allergy.

      "We're still searching for the mechanism," he said, describing plans to test the theory in mice that were genetically altered to lack alpha-gal. "It's hard to prove."
      The reaction does lessen and then disappear after several months. Just an interesting story, though.
      Durp.

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      • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
        Dogs can be vegetarian or vegan, but cats can not.
        I had a dog with severe skin issues and it turned out to be an allergy to chicken. He did fine on Duck and Potato food and eventually Lamb and Rice, but a vegetarian diet was thrown out as an option.
        True. Cats are "obligate carnivores" while dogs are not but they are still primarily carnivores. They can scrounge a living on other stuff (kinda like us) but it's not natural for them.

        Originally posted by Stratford_Man View Post
        Huge smelly BM's and room clearing farts are a thing of the past.
        Yep. I noticed the same thing with my dog

        Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
        Dogs and cats can have grain intolerances, too.
        I'm sure they can. And, given that they don't know how to explain to their dense humans what is wrong, this could do a lot of damage before people figure out that denying biology is not a good idea.

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        • Originally posted by RitaRose View Post
          Interesting news story I heard this past week - apparently a certain tick's bite has been linked to actually make you allergic to meat.
          it made me laugh so bad when i read it here America panics as tick causes vegetarianism to sweep nation |
          When I'd had enough of the grain and starched based 'diabetic eating for health' diet (eating for health, my ass!) my weight was 242.5 lbs. On starting primal- 18th April 2013 weight : 238.1.
          27th July 2013. weight after 100 days 136.9 weight lost 101.2lb ; that's 105.6lbs since I stopped the 'diabetic eating for health'
          new journal http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...ml#post1264082

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          • I transitioned my cat to a raw meat and bone diet a couple of weeks after adopting him. When I first brought him home he was a gassy, stinky little bastard; ever since starting the raw diet, as mentioned a couple of times already, that's all been a thing of the past. I do use a wheat-based cat litter, though, which only seems fitting.

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            • Originally posted by athomeontherange View Post
              I see where you are coming from. However, as a science geek, the soda thing is kinda cool.
              Is ok, it works with beer too! Oh, and water
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              Originally posted by tfarny
              If you are new to the PB - please ignore ALL of this stuff, until you've read the book, or at least http://www.marksdailyapple.com/primal-blueprint-101/

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              • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                Dogs can be vegetarian or vegan, but cats can not.

                I had a dog with severe skin issues and it turned out to be an allergy to chicken. He did fine on Duck and Potato food and eventually Lamb and Rice, but a vegetarian diet was thrown out as an option.
                I saw a story on Living Green (which I recently stopped following because it was only vegan supporting) about feeding dogs a vegan diet and I went off on the author. I said that for someone who was so concerned about the CAFO cows going into pet food the author clearly didn't give two flying flips about the health and well being of her dog! Yes, it is true that dogs are more able to digest carbohydrates than their ancestor wolves - that is one of the thing ONLY things that has changed about them from domestication that isn't aesthetic. Their digestion is still that of a wolf in every other way. So while they can tolerate some leafy greens and sweet potatoes - they were domesticated long before farming, so they aren't meant to eat legumes or grains as sources of carbs any more than humans are - and certainly not meant to eat VEGAN diets. As inhumane as it is to force feed cows corn, etc. in CAFOs and all the resultant health problems for that industrial system - it is equally inhumane to force dogs to eat vegan diets! Twice as inhumane to do so for cats who don't even have the ability to digest carbs that domesticated dogs have acquired.

                Just makes you want to punch those hippies in the throat.
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                • Hike the Appalachian Trail
                • Do a real pull-up
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                • Originally posted by OutdoorAmy View Post
                  Just makes you want to punch those hippies in the throat.
                  quoted for truth
                  beautiful
                  yeah you are

                  Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                  lol

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                  • Originally posted by OutdoorAmy View Post
                    Just makes you want to punch those hippies in the throat.
                    If you ONLY knew how close I've come on numerous occasions to do just that. But it's not worth it, it takes weeks to scrub the smell off your knuckles (so I've heard).
                    "It's true, you are a good woman. Then again, you may be the antichrist."

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                    • Originally posted by UniqueTII View Post
                      My girlfriend and I were deciding on what to feed our puppy and we saw vegan dog food. I thought the same thing...that's animal abuse.
                      oh but think of all the animals that didn't have to die to feed your, uh, carnivore....
                      Sandra
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                      • The diet was suggested by my vet. Actually, a friend of mine fed her dog a home made vegetarian diet for years. That dog went from skinny/hair falling out to a beautiful dog with a thick coat and she lived to 14, pretty good for a dog her size. I'm not saying dogs should be vegetarian, but it just may be better than feeding them Alpo. I'd say the dog thrived on the diet (now she did eat eggs, not vegan). If it was abuse, that dog sure thrived.

                        I know we all love meat here, but having toured a hog confinement operation and seeing chicken houses, I can't really fault the "hippies" for trying to eliminate their contact with that industry. I actually feel kind of weird feeding my dog dog food, knowing what I take lengths to avoid.

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                        • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                          The diet was suggested by my vet. Actually, a friend of mine fed her dog a home made vegetarian diet for years. That dog went from skinny/hair falling out to a beautiful dog with a thick coat and she lived to 14, pretty good for a dog her size. I'm not saying dogs should be vegetarian, but it just may be better than feeding them Alpo. I'd say the dog thrived on the diet (now she did eat eggs, not vegan). If it was abuse, that dog sure thrived.

                          I know we all love meat here, but having toured a hog confinement operation and seeing chicken houses, I can't really fault the "hippies" for trying to eliminate their contact with that industry. I actually feel kind of weird feeding my dog dog food, knowing what I take lengths to avoid.
                          It's the illogical lengths that vegans take it to that I have a problem with - I completely share their concerns about CAFO meats - and that's why I avoid it, while still eating ecologically and biologically appropriate diet for me as an omnivore. (And my dog eats a lot of what I eat, so for the most part she does too).
                          Healthy Bucket List:
                          • Summit all of Colorado's 14-ers
                          • Hike the Appalachian Trail
                          • Do a real pull-up
                          • Run a 5k
                          • Be "Hot For Training Camp"



                          Check out my journey at Outdoor Amy's Blog.

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                          • A dog going from Alpo to a vegetarian home made diet is like a person going from the SAD to a whole foods vegetarian diet. They are going to be miles better off. But it is not because of getting rid of the meat. It is getting rid of the junk.

                            Why not ditch the junk but keep the meat?

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                            • Originally posted by OutdoorAmy View Post
                              It's the illogical lengths that vegans take it to that I have a problem with
                              that's my problem with it as well, vegan cats and babies starving to death on soy milk
                              beautiful
                              yeah you are

                              Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                              lol

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                              • Why not ditch the junk but keep the meat?
                                Because you don't want to support the meat industry and don't have the money/resources to feed humane options. The cheapest beef I can find locally that I know is humanely raised and processed is $6 a lb and not in a consistent supply.

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