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    • Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
      Here in New Orleans, we can have four chickens per household (which is pretty cool for a city). If I ever look to move, I'll be asking if I can have chickens.
      SD just recently passed an urban agriculture ordinance. We can have chickens and goats now.

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      • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
        They buy everything skinless, boneless, and completely devoid of anything nasty like connective tissue. (All the stuff that makes a good soup stock.) It's like that way they can eat meat but pretend that it doesn't really have anything to do with a dead animal.
        I used to be like that. And I've noticed that the selection of bone-in meats in the grocery store is really crummy.

        We have been getting a lot of meat from a local farm lately. 14yo DD was with me last time I picked up a bunch. We saw the chickens, pigs and sheep, heard a funny story about the cow who supplied the current batch of beef. One the way home DD says, "I don't want to hear stories about my meat. I don't want to meet the animals I'm going to eat!". I gave her the bit about the happy life these animals had, the miserable lives of the animals who end up in the supermarket. Her response? "It's better to put those poor animals out their misery and eat them, than to kill perfectly happy animals for food." Erm...OK. Well, those animals are miserable because someone made them miserable. But, I know better than to argue with an indignant 14yo, lol. She still loved the burgers from that happy cow, though.
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        • Originally posted by LauraSB View Post
          I used to be like that. And I've noticed that the selection of bone-in meats in the grocery store is really crummy.

          We have been getting a lot of meat from a local farm lately. 14yo DD was with me last time I picked up a bunch. We saw the chickens, pigs and sheep, heard a funny story about the cow who supplied the current batch of beef. One the way home DD says, "I don't want to hear stories about my meat. I don't want to meet the animals I'm going to eat!". I gave her the bit about the happy life these animals had, the miserable lives of the animals who end up in the supermarket. Her response? "It's better to put those poor animals out their misery and eat them, than to kill perfectly happy animals for food." Erm...OK. Well, those animals are miserable because someone made them miserable. But, I know better than to argue with an indignant 14yo, lol. She still loved the burgers from that happy cow, though.
          Reasoning with a 14 yo girl? Step away. Step far, far away. Gotta love them and smush their little faces with kisses or otherwise you might have to put them out on the side of the road.

          Mine is so anti-vegetarian I have to remind her to be respectful of others choices.

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          • Originally posted by momrn View Post

            Mine is so anti-vegetarian I have to remind her to be respectful of others choices.
            That's funny my 15 yr old son is the same way. His best friends are vegetarians, he's careful not to say anything in front of them but he thinks tofu pups are an abomination.
            Life is death. We all take turns. It's sacred to eat during our turn and be eaten when our turn is over. RichMahogany.

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            • Originally posted by Cierra
              chemically ridden fast food chicken--
              I actually wanted to be bad and get some KFC when I was visiting a bigger city recently. I was gonna get the Double Down sandwich but they don't sell that anymore, so I just got some chicken strips and brown gravy. It was a deeply, deeply unsatisfying meal and far too expensive for what it was imo also. (the gravy = brownish salt slurry, no real taste). Even fast food these days is far too overpriced for what you get really; when you start getting up into $7-8 per "meal", you might as well go to a local sit-down restaurant at that rate (if you have the time). Fast food only has the advantage of getting the food out relatively quick, and outside of the dollar menu it isn't cheaper than any other average restaurant anymore either. If I go with my SO to eat and am spending $20 for the two of us at a fast food place, I'm like WTF! And they wonder why their sales are dropping. $20 can buy us a week of groceries (meat, eggs, veggies)... unfortunately our biggest discretionary expense is still eating out ><

              I balk at $4+ fast food items; at that rate I could get a pound of steak at the supermarket :/ Oh and, McD's is coming out with a few new menu items - "premium" chicken wraps, no-yolk egg mcmuffins (I saved 30 calories today! (and lost a bunch of nutrition) /facepalm), and another flavor of smoothie ($4 per smoothie? gtfo... I'd rather get 4 dollar menu sandwiches, at least I can get some protein out of them). But I went to look at the nutrition info of the chicken wraps - they are WORSE than a Big Mac (the fried ones anyway). But you know, a bunch of people are going to get them thinking they are "healthier!!!" than a burger... sigh :/
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              • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                SD just recently passed an urban agriculture ordinance. We can have chickens and goats now.
                That's really great! I'm so glad some cities are being progressive about it and not tight-assed jerks about people growing their own food. I really want to rent a house where I can have chickens or ducks in the backyard, at least for eggs if not meat. Although I do want to get to the point of raising and killing my own poultry. Long term I want to have goats also.
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                • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                  Confession.... I love a really good cheeseburger on a bun. And I feel like that guy does "DAYUM".

                  I've eaten like 3 cheeseburgers on buns with real beef in the last...20 years (from vegetarian to primal). They really are DAYUM. LIke my favorite food. As in, my last supper would be a giant cheeseburger on a bun with bacon, ketchup, pickles and duke;s mayo.
                  Guilty admission...I made bacon cheeseburger mac & cheese (thanks Rachael Ray!) for dinner tonight for the family. It was freaking fantastic. But break it down...the only non-primal ingredients were the noodles and a little flour and ketchup. I can feel my ankles swelling as I type.
                  Sandra
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                  DAINTY CAN KISS MY PRIMAL BACKSIDE. ~~ Crabcakes

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                  • Originally posted by Urban Forager View Post
                    That's funny my 15 yr old son is the same way. His best friends are vegetarians, he's careful not to say anything in front of them but he thinks tofu pups are an abomination.
                    I was a vegan, and Tofu Pups ARE an abomination.

                    Today, in a store, I overheard a couple of older, chubby in the middle (diabetic shape) women discussing how great it was that the store carried "the good, vegetarian fat-free" canned chili.

                    Uhg.

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                    • You know whats been bothering me lately? CW's fascination with greek yogurt. Like, I bet if you asked someone why its better than regular yogurt, they couldn't tell you. Also, if you're just going to add that fruit compote nonsense to it YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST HAVE YOPLAIT.
                      just make sure its fat free!
                      *facepalm*

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                      • Originally posted by Maureen M View Post
                        You know whats been bothering me lately? CW's fascination with greek yogurt. Like, I bet if you asked someone why its better than regular yogurt, they couldn't tell you. Also, if you're just going to add that fruit compote nonsense to it YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST HAVE YOPLAIT.
                        just make sure its fat free!
                        *facepalm*
                        I love full fat Greek yoghurt but CW only allows fat free Greek yog with sugar added and yeah loads of adverts for it all aimed at women as well. I think that is really sad as to me the full fat version is deliciously creamy and a little goes along way. Don't people get it - adulterated food is a bad idea? CW thinks it has to "get the better" of food. But thats what it is like for CW people, they are always at war with food.

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                        • Reminds me of another CW moment. I commented to a friend that I sometimes make ice cream..."ooh can you make it with skimmed milk so its healthier" came the reply. NO I BLOODY can't and refuse to on principle as it would taste awful.

                          Can CW please just GET OVER LOW FAT DAIRY and stop pushing it at people, particularly women. Isn't it linked to infertility?

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                          • Originally posted by Polecatz View Post
                            . NO I BLOODY can't and refuse to on principle as it would taste awful.
                            LOL

                            *snorted my bulletproof coffee this morning reading that...
                            The eyes of all hope in thee, O Lord: and thou givest them meat in due season.
                            Psalms 144:15

                            Annie Sires

                            Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.
                            Pope John Paul II

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                            • When my mother started making her Thanksgiving Day cream gravy with skim milk, it was the beginning of the end of real food at her house.

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                              • I was in Costco the other day, and saw a woman handing out samples that caught my eye.

                                Me, with great interest " is that Greek Sour Cream?"

                                Her, enthusiastically "Yes! And it only has half the fat!!"

                                Me, disappointed " what a shame" shakes head and walks away.

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