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  • I definitely have noticed the shift in hunger feelings from "zomg hungry food NAO!!!" to a deeper, slower sort of, "Yeah, wow, I could totally eat, but I'll get around to it later."

    One thing I HAVE been noticing (and everyone around me has noticed as well) since going paleo is that when I havent eaten in awhile, even when im not feeling even my low-grade levels of hunger, I get REALLY moody and irritable. Not shaky or weak or anything, just really irritable. I never really had this BEFORE going paleo, or at least, not nearly to the same degree. My boyfriend thinks it might be some form of low-grade, neurologically-specific hypoglycemia. It's been concerning me lately but I dont know how to go about diagnosing/treating it.
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    • Originally posted by momrn View Post
      I'm conflicted about this. When I was eating SAD (LFHC), I would get shaky and sick if I went without eating. I would eat something, some lowfat, high fiber thing, and be okay. Some I believe was the programming you speak of, but there was a real need there as well. I never feel that way now. It takes me a long, long time to get hungry. Even then, it isn't that shaky, freak-out feeling. It's more a deep gnawing that I need food. I can put it off for a while and it doesn't feel urgent. I think that other feeling is what people think is hunger when it's really low blood sugar. But how would they know it isn't hunger? It's satisfied by eating. They won't ever figure it out unless they can somehow level out their blood sugar. CW says do that by frequent LFHC snacks. Round and round they go!

      Dropping grains and sugar killed my constant hunger. I would have told you before I was always hungry, no matter what or how much I ate. Now I could easily go 36 hours without food.

      I try to answer my hunger cues pretty readily because of other health issues, but I often wonder how long I could go before that didn't go away without food.
      I so agree with you. Back when I ate grains and bread, my hunger could be acutely painful. Now it's just 'meh, maybe I should eat something'. And I don't get shakey the way I used to.
      Out of context quote for the day:

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      • Originally posted by Corvidae View Post
        One thing I HAVE been noticing (and everyone around me has noticed as well) since going paleo is that when I havent eaten in awhile, even when im not feeling even my low-grade levels of hunger, I get REALLY moody and irritable. Not shaky or weak or anything, just really irritable. I never really had this BEFORE going paleo, or at least, not nearly to the same degree. My boyfriend thinks it might be some form of low-grade, neurologically-specific hypoglycemia. It's been concerning me lately but I dont know how to go about diagnosing/treating it.
        Your body is preparing you to go out and kill something. That means you are by nature a huntress. Congratulations!

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        • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
          Your body is preparing you to go out and kill something.
          Mind. Blown.

          Seiously!

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          • Originally posted by Corvidae View Post
            I definitely have noticed the shift in hunger feelings from "zomg hungry food NAO!!!" to a deeper, slower sort of, "Yeah, wow, I could totally eat, but I'll get around to it later."

            One thing I HAVE been noticing (and everyone around me has noticed as well) since going paleo is that when I havent eaten in awhile, even when im not feeling even my low-grade levels of hunger, I get REALLY moody and irritable. Not shaky or weak or anything, just really irritable. I never really had this BEFORE going paleo, or at least, not nearly to the same degree. My boyfriend thinks it might be some form of low-grade, neurologically-specific hypoglycemia. It's been concerning me lately but I dont know how to go about diagnosing/treating it.
            I usually eat lunch between 1:30-2 during the week. Breakfast is at 6 am.

            Yesterday I didn't get to go to lunch until 2:30. It was not pretty. I was really irritable because I was very hungry by then. I think it was a hypoglycemic episode. Even after I ate I still felt hungry which is so unusual for me.

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            • Last weekend, I drove a couple of hours to go visit my folks at home. As a result of recent events (teaching myself to cook and losing weight by preparing my own meals and eating actual food), it's become a bit of a new tradition for me to prepare a meal for my mom and dad when I come home. They think I'm some sort of master chef, but really, I think they've just become so used to eating out 10+ times per week that anything home-cooked (and Paleo, of course ) tastes amazing and satisfying in comparison. I digress, as they aren't the subjects of my mini-rant—my brother and his wife are.

              Now, my parents (despite eating your typical garbage a lot of the time) are pretty open-minded and are willing to try things that I want to make for them. I don't do anything insane or wacky: prime rib, roasted Brussels sprouts (with duck fat and fish sauce), roasted cabbage, asparagus, roasted pork shoulder with crispy skin, etc. No entrails or sheep's heads or anything.

              My brother and his wife, though; they are CW in every way, with the classic bland-as-hell SAD palate. I'm not even sure if my sister-in-law cooks meals at home. I think they're a takeout family as well.

              Regardless, I was prepping dinner for Mom, Dad, my fiancÚ and me when they came over to say hi. Both my brother and sister-in-law saw the cookie sheet of chicken thighs sitting atop a bed of shredded cabbage and looked at it like it was some sort of foreign, endangered animal. I'm not kidding. You know that slight "lip curled upward in distaste" expression that people make? Bingo. They both just...stared.

              "What is that?"

              I asked my brother if he could guess at what animal he was looking at.

              He had no idea.

              My mom felt guilty for not inviting them to dinner, but later as they were (gleefully) eating my chicken thighs (a meal at first they were mildly hesitant about), they told me that there was no way that my brother and his wife could have possibly enjoyed it. Y'know, because of that weird mystery meat that is The Chicken Thigh.

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              • I think there are a lot of people these days who don't really get it that meat comes with --wait for it--BONES!

                They buy everything skinless, boneless, and completely devoid of anything nasty like connective tissue. (All the stuff that makes a good soup stock.) It's like that way they can eat meat but pretend that it doesn't really have anything to do with a dead animal.

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                • Originally posted by fivespice View Post
                  Regardless, I was prepping dinner for Mom, Dad, my fiancÚ and me when they came over to say hi. Both my brother and sister-in-law saw the cookie sheet of chicken thighs sitting atop a bed of shredded cabbage and looked at it like it was some sort of foreign, endangered animal. I'm not kidding. You know that slight "lip curled upward in distaste" expression that people make? Bingo. They both just...stared.

                  "What is that?"

                  I asked my brother if he could guess at what animal he was looking at.

                  He had no idea.

                  My mom felt guilty for not inviting them to dinner, but later as they were (gleefully) eating my chicken thighs (a meal at first they were mildly hesitant about), they told me that there was no way that my brother and his wife could have possibly enjoyed it. Y'know, because of that weird mystery meat that is The Chicken Thigh.
                  OMG - that's totally pathetic. Even when I'm cooking the simplest of foods, I have fun in the kitchen. I feel sorry for them.
                  "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                  B*tch-lite

                  Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                  • I LOVE CHICKEN THIGHS.
                    Best meat except duck or lamb.

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                    • Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
                      I think there are a lot of people these days who don't really get it that meat comes with --wait for it--BONES!

                      They buy everything skinless, boneless, and completely devoid of anything nasty like connective tissue. (All the stuff that makes a good soup stock.) It's like that way they can eat meat but pretend that it doesn't really have anything to do with a dead animal.
                      Absolutely. When I worked in a lunch restaurant making sandwiches, women were always getting grossed out by the fact that the deli meat we used was more natural and had structure, rather than pureed like baloney or pressed from scraps like cheap "ham" products I guess. The fact that ham was actually a pig's leg was something they couldn't handle.

                      It's as though they thought roast beef, ham, or turkey breast was grown in a tank rather than cut from an animal.

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                      • Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                        OMG - that's totally pathetic. Even when I'm cooking the simplest of foods, I have fun in the kitchen. I feel sorry for them.
                        It really is pathetic. The sad thing is that my brother suffers from horrible GI problems, and has been diagnosed with both GERD and IBS. Is acid reflux included in either of those? If not, he has that too (I've never had any of these issues, even when eating a SAD-style diet). His doctor actually recommended to him a primal-style of diet and eliminating gluten from his food sources in hopes of abating his awful digestive issues. He keeps talking about how he wants to start, but I really worry that his habits are so heavily ingrained (he'll be 30 next month) that he won't even bother.

                        Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                        I LOVE CHICKEN THIGHS.
                        Best meat except duck or lamb.
                        Oh, you better believe I love 'em. Chicken thighs have been one of my culinary (and 'diet') mainstays for years now. An absolute steal, price-wise, and insanely delicious (bordering on decadent, as far as I'm concerned). For me, it's ribeye, pork shoulder, and chicken thighs. Chicken wings ain't half bad either.

                        I always, always roast my thighs on a cookie sheet on top of a bed of whatever mess of vegetables I have on hand—that way, the delicious drippings resulting from the fatty skin aid in the roasting of said veggies waiting underneath. Toss chicken under the screaming hot broiler for a few minutes when you're within a few degrees of your desired internal temperature, and you have an obscenely delicious dish.

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                        • One of the hardest things for me to accept was the price of well-raised chicken over CAFO chicken. Pork is tough also. Both of these meats offered as CAFO are incredibly cheap. Still, when I'd gone about two months without eating chicken, I finally sucked it up and bought a pastured one. Let me tell you, I savored every bite, and let nothing go to waste.

                          Here in New Orleans, we can have four chickens per household (which is pretty cool for a city). If I ever look to move, I'll be asking if I can have chickens.
                          "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                          B*tch-lite

                          Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                          • Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                            Here in New Orleans, we can have four chickens per household (which is pretty cool for a city). If I ever look to move, I'll be asking if I can have chickens.
                            That's cool. I don't think we're supposed to have any. With only 2 persons in the household, it's probably not worth considering anyway.

                            The other day I was digging out in the garden and noticed there were 3 chickens there with me. It turns out the neighbor behind me has about a dozen, and they got out and ended up all over the neighborhood.

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                            • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                              That's cool. I don't think we're supposed to have any. With only 2 persons in the household, it's probably not worth considering anyway.

                              The other day I was digging out in the garden and noticed there were 3 chickens there with me. It turns out the neighbor behind me has about a dozen, and they got out and ended up all over the neighborhood.
                              Portland OR? or ME? I think Oregon just passed some kind of backyard farming law that allows everyone to have chickens, gardens, etc. I've been getting emails from friends to "come back home."
                              "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                              B*tch-lite

                              Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                              • Originally posted by eKatherine View Post
                                With only 2 persons in the household, it's probably not worth considering anyway.
                                It would definitely be worth it. Two or three chickens laying an egg a day would be a great contribution to your pantry.
                                I'm about to inherit four chickens, I am excited. I eat two eggs per morning and use more in cooking.
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