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  • my friend, Lord love her went to the Dr and was told she in insulin resistance and needed to go low carb. She has been doing WW FOR YEARS. Anyhow, she says well, I am not going to make this hard on me or my family. I am cutting my carbs to 150-200g/day.

    smh

    She does not listen to me and knows I am VLC but have been LC. She says I am not giving up bread, cereal and fruit. I will eat wraps instead of bread. good grief.
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    • Originally posted by Corvidae View Post
      I actually heard once that the average flour tortilla actually has about the same carb and flour content of a piece or two of bread; the only difference is that in bread its all puffy and spread out, while in a tortilla its densely packed together.

      And like the extra large burrito/wrap tortillas likely have even more carb/flour content than the bread that you might have had with the sandwich its replacing
      Exactly. There really is no difference between having the bread or the tortilla really; they probably have the same calories even, so there is zero gain for having a "wrap"; in fact you can buy bread that is only 45 calories/slice, which is reasonable if you must have it. Meanwhile our favorite place to eat in town is the local authentic "taco shack", where I was often getting the burrito specials, but after I started having an interest in paleo one day I deconstructed it - unwrapped the tortilla, and the tortilla was HUGE and the amount of fillings was pretty small actually. So I am thinking most of the calories in the burrito comes from just the tortilla. Of course, it's super delicious, but now I have been getting the carnitas and lengua soft tacos in corn tortilla instead. (haven't brought myself to try the cabeza (brains) taco yet, but someday)

      Originally posted by MissJecka View Post
      I mentioned this story in my journal, but it's worth repeating as it keeps making me smile...

      A coworker of mine is in the Biggest Loser competition at my office, as am I. Yesterday I told him how I lost a couple of more pounds since our last weigh-in and he was amazed because of the things I eat (lots of meat... oh, no!).

      I was enjoying a half of a rotisserie chicken and some steamed veggies for lunch at my desk and the coworker stopped at my desk saying, "Whatever weight you lost, you're going to gain right back!" I asked, "Why?"

      He responded with, "Well, you're going to eat all of that huge chicken!" And I asked, again, "Yeah, so?" He didn't have an answer right away but just smiled and walked away saying, "I don't get how you can be so slim if you eat like that!"

      yep, the one day I ate an entire rotisserie chicken and nothing else, I lost weight.
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      • Overweight, ill coworker to other overweight coworker (both on the Almighty WW):

        Did you know that a roll of smarties only has 6.4 grams of carbohydrates? No protein, no fat. You can have two rolls and it'll only be 1 WW point!

        Me:*silently screaming in my cubicle*

        1st coworker: And it takes 13 pieces of SweeTarts to equal a WW point! See, they can't be bad for you!

        I headdesked so hard they had to call the paramedics.

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        • Originally posted by Maureen M View Post
          Overweight, ill coworker to other overweight coworker (both on the Almighty WW):

          Did you know that a roll of smarties only has 6.4 grams of carbohydrates? No protein, no fat. You can have two rolls and it'll only be 1 WW point!

          Me:*silently screaming in my cubicle*

          1st coworker: And it takes 13 pieces of SweeTarts to equal a WW point! See, they can't be bad for you!

          I headdesked so hard they had to call the paramedics.
          ummm... er... yeah, there are just no words...
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          • What kind of floors me is that I hardly ever see anyone in a grocery store reading labels. I know a lot of grocery shopping is really repeating what you did last time you shopped, but really, I'm a people watcher, and there is a huge amount of faith in what that can or bottle says on the front. The one that really taught me was "Tuna in Water" - had soy in it.

            Even more distressing is the blind faith some people have in Whole Foods Market. I shop there a lot, and for this area, it has the best selection and prices for grass fed beef and organic veggies (fresh and frozen), but once I'm out of the produce aisle and away from the meat counter, I read every label before it goes into my cart. Veggie oils and soy abound.

            Re: WW points. May I just say that while calorie counting may be just a rough estimate, "points" are the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. It takes one even farther away from understanding macros, calories, etc. Forget nutrients, just see what WW says is your points.

            If you don't eat foods that list WW points on the box (you know, like fresh veggies and animals), here's the easy peasy formula to calculate points.

            Source: http://www.exercise4weightloss.com/c...rs-points.html

            Since no one is going to take the time to actually do that for every food they eat, once one buys into the WW myth, they are a slave to packaged foods with the points stated on the box or can. A smart marketing/business model, but a stupid health plan.

            No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
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            • Coworker today, who has previously stated that she is "eating paleo-ish" (faileo?) and "doesn't want to lift heavy weights because she'll get bulky":

              Her: So I heard that Ramen noodles are great for a pre-workout meal, because of all the carbs and salt. Is that true?
              Me: What are you trying to get out of it?
              Her: .... Carbs and salt?
              Me: Yes, that will get you what you are looking for, then.

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              • I was using a curriculum based book today for a language lesson. The lesson was to analyze media, specifically websites to determine how trustworthy they are. The example was a blurb from a blog and a blurb from a news article. The blog was a woman on low carb diet talking about how good she feels and how much weight she has lost, etc. The news article stated that low carb was a fad and people who do it end up quitting because it is too hard, etc. I am sure you can guess which one was more trustworthy. I skipped that lesson and went on the next page.

                Advertisement on my buggy at Publix: BUy Mazola Corn Oil: more plant sterols than any other vegetable oil!

                Ugh...
                You know all those things you wanted to do: You should go do them.

                Age 48
                height 5'3
                SW 215 lbs
                CW 180 lbs (whole foods/primal eating)
                LW 172 lbs
                GW 125ish lbs

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                • HAhahah... those things are also deep fried.

                  She should totally read that label.
                  More than carbs and salt in those Ramen noodles... a good bit of fat too.
                  Not to mention the other slight FAIL.

                  Originally posted by valmason01 View Post

                  Advertisement on my buggy at Publix: BUy Mazola Corn Oil: more plant sterols than any other vegetable oil!

                  Ugh...
                  I had a good eye roll at exactly the same ad just yesterday while picking up some produce!
                  *which is where I tend to get my "plant sterols"(buzz word), ya know*
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                  • I think this is not even CW, its just stupidity. One of my younger sisters is in NZ, and she told me before her nearly 3 year old was in the front seat of the car, in her car seat, but still. And she says, oh she is OK, I have air bags.
                    I just about lost it at her but managed to stay calm and tell her how dangerous it is, not to mention illegal. Needless to say her daughter is now back in the back she says.

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                    • JoanieL, thanks for saying that about the WW points! I tried it for a few weeks, and even with the whizzbang iPhone app, calculating points for homemade food (and being confident you were doing it right) was really tricky. All the measuring ingredients, calculating portion sizes, etc... It encouraged you to eat WW food or food from chain restaurants (just look up "TGI Friday's Jack Daniel's steak" or whatever). Hence the co-worker upthread who thought Smarties were healthy because they were low points. I'm sure my average lunch is a whole day's worth of WW points, and I couldn't care less. I also can't be bothered to figure it out. PB is so freeing like that.

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                      • What's the deal (meaning the CW expectation vs. real world data) on plant sterols? I never worried much about them but I just saw that my new bottle of multivitamins contains them.
                        I wish I liked to eat liver.

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                        • Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                          What kind of floors me is that I hardly ever see anyone in a grocery store reading labels. I know a lot of grocery shopping is really repeating what you did last time you shopped, but really, I'm a people watcher, and there is a huge amount of faith in what that can or bottle says on the front. The one that really taught me was "Tuna in Water" - had soy in it.

                          Even more distressing is the blind faith some people have in Whole Foods Market. I shop there a lot, and for this area, it has the best selection and prices for grass fed beef and organic veggies (fresh and frozen), but once I'm out of the produce aisle and away from the meat counter, I read every label before it goes into my cart. Veggie oils and soy abound.
                          Reading labels is also how you find some amazingly healthy alternatives to the usual crap you may "cheat" with.
                          Tesco's own brand or jarred tomato-sauce is 75p/500g. It's just over half tomato and bulked with all sorts of crap.
                          The best option I knew of until now, if you want a healthy, non home-made sauce was a branded version, which doesn't have quite as much rubbish, but is over twice the price (£1.80/500g).
                          Today I found a far better option in Pound-Stretcher: same price as Tesco's, but over 85% tomato (mostly plain tomato, but with some paste), made with olive-oil and dried herbs and garlic puree. Not an e-number, veg-oil or chemical in sight. The worst thing in it was a dash of sugar and some salt (and even those in less quantity than the "bargain" or "own brand" sauces!).

                          By CW-logic, something that cheap can't possibly be better than the expensive branded version. Yet, if you want some tomato for a sauce, it's even better than canned stuff (the chemicals that leach from the can = not good) and than all-bar-one of the branded sauces (which are often £1/250g).

                          I myself don't use it, but my fiance uses tomato sauce and tinned tomatoes once in a while and I like to keep an eye out for healthier alternatives for him too.
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                          • Speaking of reading ingredient labels, I just had a big WTF??? moment that doesnt have to do with the normal CW drivel we see around here but is still head-desk inducing.

                            In our office kitchen, sometimes people bring in special coffees and teas to share (or dump, if they dont like them). Today someone brought in some flavored Lipton green teas. One was berry, and one was passion fruit and coconut. Im normally a super tea-snob, but I was intrigued by the flavor combination of passion fruit and coconut. Still, im sensitive to soy lecitin, which is often found in flavored teas, so I checked the ingredient label before trying one:

                            "Green tea, Orange peel, Jasmine tea, Natural coconut flavor, Sunflower lecitin, soy lecitin."

                            My first thought was "awww, crap, lecitin." My second thought was, "Wait....THERE IS NO PASSION FRUIT FLAVOR IN THIS!!! WTH!!?!!"

                            I mean, yes the taste of fresh passion fruit is very similar to a citrus taste, so thats probably why they used orange peel instead, but WHAT! THE! HELL! If its ORANGE coconut, thats fine! JUST CALL IT THAT!!!

                            Stupid, brash, bold-faced marketing lies right to our face. Grrrrr.
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                            • Not sure if this fits here or not but a coworker said it today and I find it funny...

                              "I tried Atkins for two weeks and it worked - I was losing weight - but then I was in a restaurant and there was this sweet little old couple at another table and I just wanted to punch them both and I realized that eating so much meat was making me really aggressive! It's like my body was eating itself because I wasn't giving it any sugar which is like natural body food and in response it was just making me super aggressive. So I stopped and will never do low carb again."

                              Maybe the CW diet should get credit for America's declining crime rates....

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                              • Originally posted by Corvidae View Post
                                Speaking of reading ingredient labels, I just had a big WTF??? moment that doesnt have to do with the normal CW drivel we see around here but is still head-desk inducing.

                                In our office kitchen, sometimes people bring in special coffees and teas to share (or dump, if they dont like them). Today someone brought in some flavored Lipton green teas. One was berry, and one was passion fruit and coconut. Im normally a super tea-snob, but I was intrigued by the flavor combination of passion fruit and coconut. Still, im sensitive to soy lecitin, which is often found in flavored teas, so I checked the ingredient label before trying one:

                                "Green tea, Orange peel, Jasmine tea, Natural coconut flavor, Sunflower lecitin, soy lecitin."

                                My first thought was "awww, crap, lecitin." My second thought was, "Wait....THERE IS NO PASSION FRUIT FLAVOR IN THIS!!! WTH!!?!!"

                                I mean, yes the taste of fresh passion fruit is very similar to a citrus taste, so thats probably why they used orange peel instead, but WHAT! THE! HELL! If its ORANGE coconut, thats fine! JUST CALL IT THAT!!!

                                Stupid, brash, bold-faced marketing lies right to our face. Grrrrr.
                                In a tea bag?? Oh crap!! Going to check mine when I get home.
                                Karin


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