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  • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
    See, I'm in favour of all of that. Does that make me left or right wing?
    Well, if you have a little right wing and a little left wing then you're probably like me: a little cuckoo.

    I can't help myself, sorry...
    --
    Perfection is entirely individual. Any philosophy or pursuit that encourages individuality has merit in that it frees people. Any that encourages shackles only has merit in that it shows you how wrong and desperate the human mind can get in its pursuit of truth.

    --
    I get blunter and more narcissistic by the day.
    I'd apologize, but...

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    • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
      See, I'm in favour of all of that. Does that make me left or right wing?
      It means that in the US, there are no candidates or representatives that will truly represent what you want. Sorry.

      (Most of that is idealized right/left viewpoints, which are far away from actual policies and laws being made.)

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      • Originally posted by Kochin View Post
        Well, if you have a little right wing and a little left wing then you're probably like me: a little cuckoo.

        I can't help myself, sorry...
        No, I'm a kiwi
        Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

        Griff's cholesterol primer
        5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
        Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
        TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
        bloodorchid is always right

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        • Originally posted by Kochin View Post
          Well, if you have a little right wing and a little left wing then you're probably like me: a little cuckoo.

          I can't help myself, sorry...

          ME TOO!


          Originally posted by jfreaksho View Post
          It means that in the US, there are no candidates or representatives that will truly represent what you want. Sorry.

          (Most of that is idealized right/left viewpoints, which are far away from actual policies and laws being made.)
          Isn't that the truth!! PREACH IT!!
          Karin


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          • I restrain myself literally dozens of times each day to NOT argue with people in various social media settings. It is incredibly difficult. Here are a couple gems from within the last hour:

            Person 1: Why do oatmeal pies have so many calories when they are so small? They taste so good!
            Person 2: It's the fat. Fat makes everything taste good.
            Me: *internally fighting so hard to NOT point out that an oatmeal pie is comprised entirely of GMO grains and chemical badness, has only 13 g of fat and 43 carbs primarily of HFCS*

            Later, on a fitness group...

            Person 1: Last week episode of Dr Oz he spoke about eating greek yogurt in the morning before you eat breakfast. It coats the fat cells in your tummy and keeps from storing fat with anything else you eat.This is my goal!
            Me: ... o.o
            yay!

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            • Originally posted by qqemokitty View Post
              Person 1: Last week episode of Dr Oz he spoke about eating greek yogurt in the morning before you eat breakfast. It coats the fat cells in your tummy and keeps from storing fat with anything else you eat.This is my goal!
              Me: ... o.o
              I... wut? I swear, he's just making things up now. That bears no possible relation to any science ever. My brain, it hurts.

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              • please tell me co-worker just heard him wrong

                that can't be real life
                beautiful
                yeah you are

                Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                lol

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                • Overheard at work today while putting together my BAS at the salad bar in the cafeteria:

                  Woman in line ordering: I'll have a chicken cheesesteak in a wrap
                  Man in line in front of her: A wrap?? What are you trying to be healthy??
                  Woman: Yeah, but trust me, I would really rather be having the bread!!

                  Me (to myself): But you ARE eating bread . . .

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                  • Originally posted by Purple Leather Couch View Post
                    Overheard at work today while putting together my BAS at the salad bar in the cafeteria:

                    Woman in line ordering: I'll have a chicken cheesesteak in a wrap
                    Man in line in front of her: A wrap?? What are you trying to be healthy??
                    Woman: Yeah, but trust me, I would really rather be having the bread!!

                    Me (to myself): But you ARE eating bread . . .
                    Some foods have "CW halos" that make them good until someone "uncovers" the truth: they're not. Then people stop having them. A lot of people think of muffins as "health foods" because a plain muffin is marginally better (in terms of kcals, satiety and chemical content) than a cake or most breakfast cereals. They ignore these facts:
                    -only marginally better, which doesn't mean "healthy"#
                    -only PLAIN muffins are better
                    -it's usually "better per 100g", so, if you eat more muffin, you cancel out any improvement
                    And, in a few weeks, there will be an "expose" on the "hidden secret" of muffins and why they aren't healthy after all.

                    I'm guessing the same goes for wraps: because they're usually smaller (smaller = less kcals by default), have less bread content and the bread is sometimes less processed, they have a "halo".

                    CW is strange even within its own "rules".
                    --
                    Perfection is entirely individual. Any philosophy or pursuit that encourages individuality has merit in that it frees people. Any that encourages shackles only has merit in that it shows you how wrong and desperate the human mind can get in its pursuit of truth.

                    --
                    I get blunter and more narcissistic by the day.
                    I'd apologize, but...

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                    • Originally posted by Kochin View Post
                      Some foods have "CW halos" that make them good until someone "uncovers" the truth: they're not. Then people stop having them. A lot of people think of muffins as "health foods" because a plain muffin is marginally better (in terms of kcals, satiety and chemical content) than a cake or most breakfast cereals. They ignore these facts:
                      -only marginally better, which doesn't mean "healthy"#
                      -only PLAIN muffins are better
                      -it's usually "better per 100g", so, if you eat more muffin, you cancel out any improvement
                      And, in a few weeks, there will be an "expose" on the "hidden secret" of muffins and why they aren't healthy after all.

                      I'm guessing the same goes for wraps: because they're usually smaller (smaller = less kcals by default), have less bread content and the bread is sometimes less processed, they have a "halo".

                      CW is strange even within its own "rules".
                      I actually heard once that the average flour tortilla actually has about the same carb and flour content of a piece or two of bread; the only difference is that in bread its all puffy and spread out, while in a tortilla its densely packed together.

                      And like the extra large burrito/wrap tortillas likely have even more carb/flour content than the bread that you might have had with the sandwich its replacing
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                      • Originally posted by Corvidae View Post
                        I actually heard once that the average flour tortilla actually has about the same carb and flour content of a piece or two of bread; the only difference is that in bread its all puffy and spread out, while in a tortilla its densely packed together.

                        And like the extra large burrito/wrap tortillas likely have even more carb/flour content than the bread that you might have had with the sandwich its replacing
                        And that's exactly why the "halos" make no bloody sense.
                        It's like having a friend who went from 200g spaghetti with sauce to 50g linguini with salad and lost weight, so you decide to still have the sauce and swap your 200g spaghetti for 200g linguini, because your friend "proved" linguini is "healthier".
                        --
                        Perfection is entirely individual. Any philosophy or pursuit that encourages individuality has merit in that it frees people. Any that encourages shackles only has merit in that it shows you how wrong and desperate the human mind can get in its pursuit of truth.

                        --
                        I get blunter and more narcissistic by the day.
                        I'd apologize, but...

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                        • Originally posted by yelena View Post
                          I... wut? I swear, he's just making things up now. That bears no possible relation to any science ever. My brain, it hurts.
                          +1

                          A note on the whole CW thing. Way back in the early 90s, I was seeing a man who told me that his mother, who had never been fat, but had never been quite thin either, finally got back her girlish figure by cutting out almost all pasta, rice, and bread. He told me that what the government was recommending humans eat was essentially the same ratios they told pig farmers to fatten their pigs.

                          So, it's not just CW, it's that a lot of people don't have it in them to question authority. It's like the whole 3 square meals a day, then 6 small meals a day. Anyway, I've become so paranoid about any advice coming from the govt, that I swear if they came out tomorrow and said breathing was good for you, I'd start researching it on my own to make sure it was valid.
                          "Right is right, even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong, even if everyone is doing it." - St. Augustine

                          B*tch-lite

                          Who says back fat is a bad thing? Maybe on a hairy guy at the beach, but not on a crab.

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                          • We have a cooking show on here at the moment, where couples cook a 3 course meal in their home state, then they all travel around to the next persons state.
                            Anyway there is a mother and daughter team, who at the first 2 courses, said there is no carbohydrates in this meal so I can absorb the protein
                            Then at the dessert she said the carbohydrates from the rice were great. It was a trifle (Jelly, sponge cake, and custard layered in a glass for those who don't know) Maybe trifles are just common in NZ and Aus?
                            Of course the rest of the contestants were laughing at them.
                            Very odd LOL

                            And I now feel guilty for watching tv once my children are in bed, now I stopped them watching TV during the week.
                            Last edited by Ayla2010; 02-12-2013, 04:09 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by JoanieL View Post
                              He told me that what the government was recommending humans eat was essentially the same ratios they told pig farmers to fatten their pigs.
                              Around here, pig farmers will get the left over bread from the grocery store and give it to the pigs. I have a priest friend who is raising two pigs from the donated bread. He weighs the pig every month $ for lb increase money to go to charity. How do you quick fatten a cow? Feed it corn, wheat, grain. How do you fatten a dog? Feed it corn, wheat, grain. How do you fatten a goat? Feed it corn, wheat, grain. How do you fatten a horse? Feed it corn, wheat, grain.

                              I raise horses (not for consumption), goats, chickens, ducks, turkeys, guinea fowl and geese for consumption. When I need to put some weight on them, I feed them grain. I keep mine nicely lean most of the time, though, unless it affects their health during the winter. The birds get scratch (read: corn) during the winter to help them produce enough heat and fat to keep warm. The horses get lots of hay, but I also have an older mare who gets grain.

                              I always tell people when I am proselytizing about Primal, "How do you fatten...?" A lot of people have listened to me, now I don't know if they've changed, but there it is.
                              The eyes of all hope in thee, O Lord: and thou givest them meat in due season.
                              Psalms 144:15

                              Annie Sires

                              Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.
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                              • I mentioned this story in my journal, but it's worth repeating as it keeps making me smile...

                                A coworker of mine is in the Biggest Loser competition at my office, as am I. Yesterday I told him how I lost a couple of more pounds since our last weigh-in and he was amazed because of the things I eat (lots of meat... oh, no!).

                                I was enjoying a half of a rotisserie chicken and some steamed veggies for lunch at my desk and the coworker stopped at my desk saying, "Whatever weight you lost, you're going to gain right back!" I asked, "Why?"

                                He responded with, "Well, you're going to eat all of that huge chicken!" And I asked, again, "Yeah, so?" He didn't have an answer right away but just smiled and walked away saying, "I don't get how you can be so slim if you eat like that!"

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