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  • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
    We're not suckers for wanting to buy gluten-free sausages, and it doesn't say more about the sausage makers than the consumer. How can it? They are responding to our perceived need, so clearly their labelling is driven by our purchasing decisions.
    Perceived need is correct. In support of Him's post, turkeys here are labeled (in large letters) "Hormone free" as if this is for our health. Thing is turkey has never been treated with hormones and it has been illegal to treat other poultry with hormones since 1950. Also many products, which never contained trans fats are now labelled '0 trans fat' as if they changed something. It is cashing in on the trend of 'healthy' products.

    Whether that matters or not is up to you.

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    • Except that the thing is, I feel so ignorant about how our food is produced. And I'm pretty sure that I'm in the top 1% of consumers in terms of awareness. To the 'average consumer', they know that hormones are a 'bad thing' to dose food animals with, and they want to eat healthy, and so they choose the 'hormone free' turkey because they just don't know whether other turkeys have hormone laced feed or not, they are just trying to eat as healthy as possible.

      I'm ok with advertising like that as long as they aren't making fraudulent or deceptive claims. It's things like breakfast cereals that claim to be healthy while being 40% sugar that get my dander up.

      On topic: Just went to the gym for some real quick pushups, pullups, situps and stretches. The whole time there another guy was slaving away on an exercise bike, and had been for some time. We both finished at the same time, with him commenting "was that it?"
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      • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
        When I first saw gluten free sausages at my supermarket, I checked the labels of EVERY other type of sausage there. They ALL had wheat (gluten) in them. The only thing that matters to me is my supermarket and what I can buy.

        I don't care if there are unlabeled gluten-free sausages in other supermarkets or other countries. That's not relevant to me because I can't buy them.

        Sorry if my response to you was abrasive, but you came across to me as smug and condescending (and wrong). Thus, my post.
        Well I was clearly wrong. I was thinking in terms of what is familiar to me, without realizing that the poster was in Scotland and that normal varies. As for smug and condescending, I don't think so but noted.

        Regarding suckers... think about it from this perspective: Zero Nutritional Difference Between Campbells "Healthy" Tomato Soups And Regular, Just Higher Price Tell me that isn't an example of people relabeling products to take advantage of suckers. Tell me that "gluten free" stickers on products that are virtually all gluten free would be any different. In the USA, labeling sausage as "gluten free" is a way to get extra money from suckers.

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        • Originally posted by Him View Post
          Well I was clearly wrong. I was thinking in terms of what is familiar to me, without realizing that the poster was in Scotland and that normal varies. As for smug and condescending, I don't think so but noted.

          Regarding suckers... think about it from this perspective: Zero Nutritional Difference Between Campbells "Healthy" Tomato Soups And Regular, Just Higher Price Tell me that isn't an example of people relabeling products to take advantage of suckers. Tell me that "gluten free" stickers on products that are virtually all gluten free would be any different. In the USA, labeling sausage as "gluten free" is a way to get extra money from suckers.
          Maybe in our state. I know in other areas of the US, gluten is a very real plausibility if not inevitability.
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          • Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
            Maybe in our state. I know in other areas of the US, gluten is a very real plausibility if not inevitability.

            You could be right, but California is the same way... no wheat in the sausage. I've lived in a few states, shopped and/or eaten in most, and I can't recall ever seeing wheat in any sausages except "bangers" sold specifically as British specialty food. I've been a terminal ingredients-checker since my teens so I would've noticed.

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            • Originally posted by Him View Post
              Do you think that's true everywhere? I mean, the part about sausages having wheat.
              maybe from the supermarket.
              But the sausages my butcher makes are meat and herbs and spices. Thats it.

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              • Originally posted by Him View Post
                Regarding suckers... think about it from this perspective: Zero Nutritional Difference Between Campbells "Healthy" Tomato Soups And Regular, Just Higher Price Tell me that isn't an example of people relabeling products to take advantage of suckers. Tell me that "gluten free" stickers on products that are virtually all gluten free would be any different. In the USA, labeling sausage as "gluten free" is a way to get extra money from suckers.
                Yeah, I'm aware that there's a 'health conscious margin' on various foods. Just try looking at the prices of asian specialty foods in the supermarket vs at a store that the asians shop at

                I dunno. Still just seems like smart marketing to me.

                I mean where you are, a gluten free label implies that the other sausages have gluten in them. Where I am, it means that the other sausages have gluten in them. Give it 10 years.
                Last edited by magicmerl; 02-07-2013, 06:50 PM.
                Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                Griff's cholesterol primer
                5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                bloodorchid is always right

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                • Gluten isn't just wheat. Rye and barley are concerns, too. Barley is the biggest sneaky offender. Those small quanities of gluten might be fine for most who avoid for health, but it's crucial for me because of celiac disease. That gluten free label saves me some leg work. I know there is no hidden gluten.

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                  • Originally posted by momrn View Post
                    Gluten isn't just wheat. Rye and barley are concerns, too. Barley is the biggest sneaky offender. Those small quanities of gluten might be fine for most who avoid for health, but it's crucial for me because of celiac disease. That gluten free label saves me some leg work. I know there is no hidden gluten.
                    Around here sausage with any kind of grain is very rare. I can find sausage with spinach in it easier than sausage with grain.

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                    • Originally posted by Him View Post
                      Around here sausage with any kind of grain is very rare. I can find sausage with spinach in it easier than sausage with grain.
                      You've short-circuited the process by feeding the grain to the cow first, right?

                      I'm so lucky that's not an economically viable thing to do here.
                      Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

                      Griff's cholesterol primer
                      5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
                      Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
                      TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
                      bloodorchid is always right

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                      • Originally posted by magicmerl View Post
                        You've short-circuited the process by feeding the grain to the cow first, right?
                        Depends on the region, but often/usually yes at least for the last phase before slaughter. That doesn't mean the meat has gluten though.

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                        • Originally posted by Him View Post
                          Depends on the region, but often/usually yes at least for the last phase before slaughter. That doesn't mean the meat has gluten though.
                          I've actually wondered about that. I'm allergic to dairy, and to a point I also react to beef. I've always assumed that the dairy allergy was either whey or cassein, but how does that explain the low grade beef allergy? Maybe I'm allergic to what they're fed, instead? I've never had grass fed milk, I wouldn't even know where to find it up here in Alaska.
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                          • Originally posted by naiadknight View Post
                            While the open mind aspect is true, I am firmly of the opinion that the rectum is an exit only port.
                            So no chance of going with the flow? LOL
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                            • Co worker has a serious auto-immune disease that aggravates her joints. Her doc has said not wheat so what does she eat to day some premade "gluten free" pasta in a cream sauce .... she at here SAD dish and I had a BAS with tuna. I really felt sorry for her.
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                              • I have a bit of pet peeve about sausages here in Quebec, I have to hunt and pester to find sausages that dont have bread crumbs or corn starch in them. I have my local butcher make them for me now but he wont make too many as I cant afford too many.

                                Everywhere I go I find them with bread crumbs or some variation in them. I take it that is not the norm? How sad.
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