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  • tapper, you remind me of my husband. He quit cereal and started cooking his own bacon & eggs each morning when he was in like 5th grade.

    Originally posted by Owly View Post
    Ah, sorry, I misread you as meaning that all you had to do was eat right and the emotional stuff would vanish, rather than saying it would be easier to get that stuff under control. I think we actually agree--if the body is satisfied and healthy, it's a lot easier to manage the emotional bits.
    yep!

    Originally posted by ekat View Post
    The one was talking about how he had to start taking supplements for vitamin D deficiency. The other guy said, "Just slap on some sunscreen and go outside!" It was all I could do not to say, "Actually..."
    Oh, I woulda, I woulda! I just can't stand that kind of stuff! I would have said it with a smile, though...

    Originally posted by Paleobird View Post
    Oh, Mama Grok, I am so glad to hear that this is coming together for you. I remember when your "binge free since<date>" item in your sig used to reset every few days. I'm so happy for you.
    Thank you! It's been a pretty amazing journey. Exactly one year ago I skipped my daughter's scout awards banquet and crossing over because I knew it would result in yet another binge, and I couldn't take it any more.

    Tonight, I went, and watched everyone eat cake & cookie cake & didn't care a bit. I didn't eat a thing. I had had my dinner hours earlier and food just has no sway over me anymore. It's like the heavens sing every time this happens.

    ETA 210 days binge-free!
    Last edited by MamaGrok; 05-24-2012, 07:32 PM.
    5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
    Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
    Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
    Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
    ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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    • Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
      ETA 210 days binge-free!
      Congratulations. Although, is it really a funny CW moment?
      Disclaimer: I eat 'meat and vegetables' ala Primal, although I don't agree with the carb curve. I like Perfect Health Diet and WAPF Lactofermentation a lot.

      Griff's cholesterol primer
      5,000 Cal Fat <> 5,000 Cal Carbs
      Winterbike: What I eat every day is what other people eat to treat themselves.
      TQP: I find for me that nutrition is much more important than what I do in the gym.
      bloodorchid is always right

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      • Congratulations! I am so happy Primal is working out so good for you!

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        • Want to read something frightening?

          How 30 scaffolders, builders, police, fire and ambulance crew rescued 63st teenager from her home | Mail Online

          It is the Faily Mail so don't expect any real insight.

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          • That girls parents should be tarred and feathered in public, then locked up for a long long time for ever allowing things to go that far.
            Do what you love and do it often. If you don't like something, change it. if you don't like your job, quit. If you don't have enough time, stop watching tv. If you are looking for the love of your life, stop, they will be waiting for you when you start doing the things you love. Stop over analyzing, life is simple. When you eat, appreciate every last bite. Some opportunities only come once, seize them.

            https://www.facebook.com/ForgedFromFat

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            • Originally posted by smilingjustalittlebit View Post
              That girls parents should be tarred and feathered in public, then locked up for a long long time for ever allowing things to go that far.
              Perhaps they don't know any better No parent would harm their child knowingly, on the contrary - parents normally strive to do what's best for their child. Maybe they were simply following CW guidelines Anyway, I feel very sorry for this girl

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              • She's 19. That's a grown woman in my book. I've never found it very easy to impose my will on children of any age. You can make things available, but there is only so much you can do. Maybe she is unusually susceptible to wheat diets and insulin insensitivity? Like it says in Tom Naughton's Fat Head, you are as fat as you need to be. The fact she put on so much weight so quickly after dieting suggests this is a metabolic issue. If she ate like this it would fall off her in two years flat most probably.

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                • While these extreme cases boggle the mind, we must remember that it takes a whole family enabling a case like this. How many times do you see a parent giving in to a screaming child wanting candy in a check out line (Ok, I rarely see this nstuff anymore, but it used to be common). Teenagers can get really ugly to get their way and parents often give in. I'm just grateful it's not me or my family, but you never know what might be coming your way. Bad food advice + Poor parent strength to say "no more" + an obvious severe metabolic problem = a huge person. Be thankful for your own blessings of sanity and knowledge!

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                  • Originally posted by smilingjustalittlebit View Post
                    That girls parents should be tarred and feathered in public, then locked up for a long long time for ever allowing things to go that far.
                    I'll assume you're being facetious.
                    • The first ingredient is her eating the same way everyone around her ate - SAD.
                    • Second ingredient is having a genetic predisposition to metabolic derangement IF she eats a certain way. She's just unlucky that her predisposition is that instead of autoimmune disease or something else. Some people get obsessive cravings from a SAD diet and some don't. Some get disproportionate weight gain; some don't. Some get broken metabolisms; some don't. I bet she had all three combine for a perfect storm.
                    • Third ingredient is a family that enabled the inevitable binges instead of helping her keep it reasonable and researching like mad to find a solution when she was still a minor and they weren't.
                    • As Mud Flinger said, the fourth ingredient is bad dietary advice. Doctors probably advised her to avoid fat & most meat, and to eat "Plenty of healthy whole grains" (have you checked the label of almost all cereals lately?). This would only serve to further wreck her metabolism, increase her weight gain,, and make her cravings absolutely uncontrollable.



                    Now, throw yourself into these ingredients and see how well YOU do. The key to getting out of the vicious cycle is finding information like that found on MDA. Probably the biggest thing that people "fail" to do is to persevere until they find this kind of information. Most people either don't try, don't persevere, or don't succeed.

                    But I do not blame them for being unable to hear the "eat grains eat sugar eat grains eat sugar eat grains eat sugar" urges SCREAMING at them 24/7 while still a child and being unable or unwilling to continue putting 100% of their energy 24/7/365 for their entire lives ignoring it.

                    Most people who are morbidly obese since childhood started out gaining huge amounts of weight before they started eating ridiculous amounts of food. They try severe portion restriction; they try starvation; and as long as the foods are SAD, they lose nothing, and the cravings grow.

                    There are several people on this website who have experienced just this. People who have been given drugs by their doctors and gained 90lb in 90 days. People who were morbidly obese by their first birthday. People who have eaten <800cal a day for years and still don't lose. There places to place blame in the story, but very little of it is "They just wanted to eat crap, so they ate it till it killed them."

                    There is a TON of CW Fail in these stories, but little of it belongs to the morbidly obese person. Most of us, if we woke up in their circumstances a few years earlier, would have had little chance of success in escaping their path down to this day.

                    /HeadingOffFattyWarsAgain
                    5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                    Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                    Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                    Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                    ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                    • Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
                      There is a TON of CW Fail in these stories, but little of it belongs to the morbidly obese person. Most of us, if we woke up in their circumstances a few years earlier, would have had little chance of success in escaping their path down to this day.
                      Everything that MamaGrok said; and it's sad that knowing what we know now, reading what we've read, knowing what CW still tells people in spite of what the SCIENCE says, and knowing that this girl attended fat-camp after fat-camp where they probably fed her nonfat yogurt and cereal bars and all that garbage and basically starved her down, death-camp style, without really helping address the physical root of the problem - metabolic distress - and after reading ALL the success stories and being all over this board, people on MDA still want to place the blame on the obese person and their family for "not trying hard enough", and that us fat people have some kind of "mental disorder" and "obsession with food", and all that garbage. Sad, and I hope that more people with "food issues" are willing to come here and look into their own problems with an informed, critical eye.

                      Any of us could be this girl. How many times would YOU like to go to a forced labor camp? Willingly? Locked up, performing meaningless physical movements for hours upon hours? And pay for it? Knowing that you will be starved and screamed at and browbeaten? Knowing that it probably won't do any good, that you'll still come out of it just as fat and broken as you were before and you'll end up even worse afterwards?

                      The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

                      The girl gave up and said "oh fuck it, nothing works, I'll just eat fish and chips and internet myself to death" because she is a sane person locked in a deranged body. My heart goes out to her.

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                      • Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
                        Most people who are morbidly obese since childhood started out gaining huge amounts of weight before they started eating ridiculous amounts of food. They try severe portion restriction; they try starvation; and as long as the foods are SAD, they lose nothing, and the cravings grow.
                        Exactly - the weight gain comes first, then they need to eat more food to maintain their current weight or what their body needs to weigh. She has gained fat at an enormously rapid rate since her diet, probably about the fastest it is physically possible to put on weight. No wonder she doesn't have any energy - it is all going into growing fatter. Multiple organ failure suggests she is not far from death.

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                        • Originally posted by Spubba View Post
                          she is a sane person locked in a deranged body
                          Oh, me likey this!!

                          I lost 50lb with no exercise. But if I had listened to any doctors at all, I would never have succeeded. Most people listen to doctors. Their trust is misplaced, but I don't think that makes them crazy.

                          Another similar major CW fail is bulimia camp. They take these poor girls who have physical urges for "more sugar!" (purging is just a natural response to get rid of the binge; the BINGE is the problem) every minute of the day, and FORCE them to eat a certain amount of food each meal, with great classics like pancakes and syrup ... then force them to go the next X hours without eating till the next carb-heavy, protein-and-fat deficient meal, tormenting them further.

                          Exercise & starve tactics are pointless. Fix the broken cravings with a solid diet and they become totally unnecessary because your body starts to regulate food intake & movement naturally, the way it was always supposed to.
                          5'4" 39yo mother to five sweeties & married to their AMAZING DaddyGrok
                          Current Weight: 175lb__________________________________Goal: 135lb
                          Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
                          Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
                          ***Winning a 20-year war against binge eating disorder***

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                          • Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
                            Most people who are morbidly obese since childhood started out gaining huge amounts of weight before they started eating ridiculous amounts of food. They try severe portion restriction; they try starvation; and as long as the foods are SAD, they lose nothing, and the cravings grow.
                            THANK YOU! No one understands this! I started gaining weight when I was around 3, and at 4 I was about a foot taller than all the other kids and was starting to gain fat. My mother made all her own baby food and fed super healthy meals. We were never allowed to eat out at restaurants or get fast food. By 5 I was sent for testing because I was gaining so much weight. I remember being in the hospital getting blood tests, head x-rays, CAT scans of my brain. By age 8 I hadn't stopped gaining and I was sent to a weight loss group. Didn't really work. I was the most active kid in my group of friends, was even on a competitive swim team.

                            My sister who wasn't active at all and ate the same foods I did was thin as a rail. I was around 200-220lbs by first year of high school and it was around this point the emotional eating started because the teasing was relentless. By the time I graduated I was well over 300lbs and topped out at almost 500lbs before I was 20. I lost about 250lbs in my early 20s by almost complete starvation. When I started eating again the weight came back, luckily only to 360lbs, and stuck there. I tried "healthy eating" diets and they did not work! I even had the "this isn't working, why am I even trying?" moments. The fact that I'm 310lbs now and still eating every day amazes me. I have never had weight loss without starving myself.

                            I feel so bad for this girl, and the fact it's all over the news is even worse.

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                            • It's stories like this that make me want to open up my own "fat" camp. Health camp, really. Put 'em to work on my (theoratical at this point) farm as they are able, and feed them real, good food that they help grow and cook. Functional movements, real food, and sunshine. For that girl, picking eggs and feeding the chickens would probably be a suitable start for the exercise. Won't be dramatic, but it'll be easier to stick to.
                              http://cattaillady.com/ My blog exploring the beginning stages of learning how to homestead. With the occasional rant.

                              Originally Posted by TheFastCat: Less is more more or less

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                              • Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
                                ETA 210 days binge-free!
                                Little late, and I know we have moved on, but.....

                                CONGRATULATIONS! That is amazing and inspiring.
                                No disease that can be treated by diet should be treated with any other means.
                                -Maimonodies

                                The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea.

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