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  • Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
    The only thing I want is CHOICE.
    You have a choice. This is America. There are not morality squads coming around arresting you if you are showing too much or promiscuity police fining you if you are not showing enough leg. If you (or others) choose to be cowed by societal pressure then you are a part of the problem. Sure, fighting the norms can be hard, it can be easier to give in, but you have to fight to change attitudes.

    Also, I am confused about all these choices men have. I guess we have speedos and swim shorts....so two choices. Yeah, we can wear a shirt or not...so perhaps that is two more choices. Of course women can wear a thong, a bikini, a one-piece a tankini (whatever the hell that is), one of them bathing suits with skirts, shorts, a shirt, a skirt, etc. Who is stopping them? Only their own insecurities. And do you really think 300 pound dudes in speedos are not being talked about? Do you think the dude with full on back hair at the beach is not getting commented on? The guy with absolutely no muscle definition baring his blindingly white chest is not getting laughed at? I just think less guys care.

    And, yes, we do get shit about body hair as well. Now being a hairy mountain man is cool. Mustaches back in the 70s were cool. Yet, when I was in high school or college body hair on dudes was a huge no-no. OMFG you don't shave your chest?! Uh, no. And guess what, now looking like a dude is back in. Nice. I am sure in 10 years all the 20 somethings will be waxing again. As Pratchett says what goes around comes around, that is why it is called a revolution.

    Oh, and speaking of CW nonsense and body image, try being an uncircumsized male in America. Yeah, that is good times. Ever been told by your significant other to have part of your body you were born with removed because "well, it just looks weird!"

    Eh, people. they suck

    On a different note...this hormone thing...

    My wife has more body hair than she would like - facial hair etc. It makes her self-conscious and it seems to be hormonal. Now, I often refer to my wife as a dude with boobs, because she is often more male in her thinking than female. She even comments on it. To quote her, "I think my hormones are messed up, but if they fix them will I start acting like a chick?" by which she means non-logical, overly emotional, etc. Not that all women act this way of course, but she as a woman seems to think acting that way is the norm for someone with 'normal' hormones who happens to be a woman. So, lets assume she or Gravyboat or whomever got their hormones straightened out, would their personalities/emotions/way of thinking change?

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    • Let's talk assbeards.

      Shave, or no?

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      • LOL, I have a very feminine body, with very little hair. I have the whole dude mentality, so Canio, I think she will probably remain cool for ya! I think you are either an emotional woman or not... and it maybe has more to do with how you were raised than with hormones. In my family we didn't cry and we did things logically.

        I think we should all just do what we want! Who cares if someone wants to be waxed clean or grow their pubes out or be a woman with a mustache. If you want to wear a robe to the beach go for it. Just treat your body with respect.

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        • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
          LOL, I have a very feminine body, with very little hair. I have the whole dude mentality, so Canio, I think she will probably remain cool for ya! I think you are either an emotional woman or not...
          So which is it? Do you think canio is an emotional woman or not?

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          • I've run into that circumsision question, and it's kinda sad to me the "Um, do you mind uncircumcised guys?" just waiting for "Eew! Go away!" I mean, it is what it is. (Somebody suggested you change it, Canio? Ouch! I mean, physically!) 'Course, I refuse to do more than trim and tidy the edges. It's on an adult. Deal with it. (Heck, when it's not likely to be in use, even that much 'scaping doesn't go on.)

            I'm on the hairy side. Some of it I think might be hormonal, but most of it is my French lineage. I tidy myself up now, but I'm getting more and more comfortable with the idea of not doing so if I so choose- because I so choose. We'll see how long it takes for me to embrace the inner hairy hippie
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            Originally Posted by TheFastCat: Less is more more or less

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            • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
              I think you are either an emotional woman or not... and it maybe has more to do with how you were raised than with hormones. In my family we didn't cry and we did things logically.
              I tend to agree though in her family her mother and sister are incredibly emotional, while she takes after her dad. I think she is afraid she will turn into her mother. We tend to see the worst around us and think, "holy crap, I do not want to be that." Also, I have read about 30000000000000000 "OMG it is that time of the month and hormones are making me whatever" threads since joining the internet so wondered if there was something to this whole hormone thing.

              It's nice being a dude and blissfully ignorant at times.


              Originally posted by Finnegans Wake View Post
              So which is it? Do you think canio is an emotional woman or not?
              Hey, what I do on weekends is my business....



              Originally posted by drssgchic View Post
              (Somebody suggested you change it, Canio? Ouch! I mean, physically!)

              Well, not me myself. It wasn't "Go grab a pair of scissors and trim a little off the top." But, yes, she wanted me to go to a doctor and have it done. I didn't.

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              • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                Ever been told by your significant other to have part of your body you were born with removed because "well, it just looks weird!"
                Yes. :P Lol.

                _-J o u r n a l_--------- ---- ---- --- --- -- -- -

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                • Originally posted by Gravyboat View Post
                  Yes. :P Lol.
                  that confirms it. We are twins.

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                  • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                    It's nice being a dude and blissfully ignorant at times.
                    Hell, even when I'm not being blissfully ignorant I play it that way.

                    Just makes it easier for everyone.

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                    • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                      Well, not me myself. It wasn't "Go grab a pair of scissors and trim a little off the top." But, yes, she wanted me to go to a doctor and have it done. I didn't.
                      That's just . . . still . . . Didn't she realize there would be a hiatus to the sexy time while you healed? Silly woman.
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                      Originally Posted by TheFastCat: Less is more more or less

                      And now I have an Etsy store: CattailsandCalendula

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                      • Originally posted by drssgchic View Post
                        That's just . . . still . . . Didn't she realize there would be a hiatus to the sexy time while you healed? Silly woman.
                        I'm not sure wtf she was thinking. If I understood the female mind I would not be sitting at this desk working for the man.

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                        • But, yes, she wanted me to go to a doctor and have it done. I didn't.
                          That's understandable that you did not pursue that. I have heard that uncircumcized penises make for better sex.

                          It's disturbing how "cosmetically correct" people seem to want sex organs these days. They have surgeries now to rejuvinate your pussy.... take a bit off the clit, tighten things up. Like what the hell.... in what universe are men turning down sex because "well, her clit was unsightly"?

                          They are sex organs that are mainly hidden from view.... EVEN DURING INTERCOURSE. Do you even see these things that much during oral sex? It's not like your lopsided vagina is on full display for the world. It's like they assume everyone makes porn these days and needs to be ready for their extended close up.

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                          • Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                            That's understandable that you did not pursue that. I have heard that uncircumcized penises make for better sex.
                            And all this time I thought it was just my technique.

                            Originally posted by magnolia1973 View Post
                            They are sex organs that are mainly hidden from view.... EVEN DURING INTERCOURSE. Do you even see these things that much during oral sex? It's not like your lopsided vagina is on full display for the world. It's like they assume everyone makes porn these days and needs to be ready for their extended close up.

                            Ah, so I should stop using a picture of my junk as my DMV photo? Now you tell me.


                            Seriously though, you are correct on your whole post. It makes no sense to me.

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                            • Just saw a bit by Joan Rivers where she's talking about "everything dropping." She was talking about the roast beef drapes going all the way to the floor.

                              If my onions start dragging on asphalt, I might consider having 'em hitched up a tad.

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                              • Originally posted by canio6 View Post
                                My wife has more body hair than she would like - facial hair etc. It makes her self-conscious and it seems to be hormonal. Now, I often refer to my wife as a dude with boobs, because she is often more male in her thinking than female. She even comments on it. To quote her, "I think my hormones are messed up, but if they fix them will I start acting like a chick?" by which she means non-logical, overly emotional, etc. Not that all women act this way of course, but she as a woman seems to think acting that way is the norm for someone with 'normal' hormones who happens to be a woman. So, lets assume she or Gravyboat or whomever got their hormones straightened out, would their personalities/emotions/way of thinking change?
                                high T? i have higher than normal t levels, but i only get hairy when i eat bread. does she partake of the breads?

                                i used to wonder 'does this make me more of a man? is this why i'm attracted to men and women? what if my hormones get normal, will i start acting like a girl? have i ever REALLY been me or will i change that easily?'

                                after acceptance, it's eh. i've always wanted to BE more feminine, but i'm not great at wearing spanx and high heels and rings. my only concession is pretty makeup

                                because it's art, dammit!
                                beautiful
                                yeah you are

                                Baby if you time travel back far enough you can avoid that work because the dust won't be there. You're too pretty to be working that hard.
                                lol

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