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  • wooaaa, need to vent! Well, I already vented a bit to DH on the way back but ...

    We visited some friends for the past few days. We knew they eat crap so I was mentally prepared to not stress about it and do the best I can given the circumstances (thank god they had eggs, the worse quality but still ...eggs, and barbecue - not the best meat but still meat; and some salad, nuts and banana chips ).

    But I found out she was pregnant! 3 months. Looking at what she ate made me wanna kill her, sorry I love her but that's just crazy!!! Coca cola (I quote "I should not have too much Cola because of the caffeine in it but the doctor said I can have 200mg caffeine/day so I'm drinking to the limit"), canned meat (the max 60% meat type, the rest soy & crap additives), bad quality hotdogs and salami, pre-deep-fried chicken wings (with 7 lines of ingredients, YES, seven!), tons and tons of fried nuts/cashew/peanuts/sunflower seeds (I quote again "The doctor said I should eat many, many nuts, just as much as I eat meat), tons of bread ("The doctor said I should have many carbohydrates", well the doctor apparently he said mostly potatoes and rice but ... bread is tastier?!), chocolate, ice-cream, margarine (I asked for some butter to fry the beef, I got a big box of something, I said that's margarine, they said noooo, it's butter; we looked together on the label, it was margarine, with SOME butter; but it said “frying butter” in capital letters so they did not bother reading the small "print").

    I had to hold my comments for most of the time, I did a few times that they maybe should avoid this and that and they can make their own chicken wings with whatever taste they want but I don't wanna start preaching again (especially as they already know my opinion and they asked a couple of times in the past years what they should eat because they were not feeling great and gaining weight with what they previously did). It never went anywhere previously. I doubt anything will change now. I just hope the baby will be ok.

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    • On a closer to home subject.
      I had a meeting today during lunchtime that took a bit longer that planned. It was 10 mins before the restaurant was supposed to close (I brought no food with me today as we just came back from holiday but the restaurant normally has meat & veggies or meat & salad so not a big deal) and it meant I had to hurry to catch something. I just said... screw it, Ill eat when I get home. So I guess this is how you end up fasting without planning. Its gonna be almost 20h in the end, I guess

      Originally posted by Spubba View Post
      Did it ever occur to anyone that steeping ourselves and our children in pesticides, herbicides and artificial hormones for decades might not be as healthy as they had hoped? The men I see who are my age, they don't even look like men. They look like washed-up fifteen year olds, either twig-skinny or fat with man-boobs, most of them carry blood glucose monitors, and none of them can even grow a proper beard. They're... infantilized physically, for lack of a better term; they look like they never properly grew up. Or is that what dudes are supposed to look like? No wonder I'm never interested in any of 'em.
      Totally agree, I have the same impression.

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      • My friend decided a month or so ago that since I am doing so well on primal, she was going to give it a shot too so she can lose weight. But instead of actually researching what I do or, you know, listening to me, she decided to do the most half-assed mish-mash of CW and primal ever conceived. I got her to buy some grassfed butter and butcher meat with me, and she claimed she was going to give up diet coke. That lasted all of like 3 weeks, now she's back to drinking diet coke all day long. She also still eats wheat freely, and her eyes light up for spaghetti and garlic bread and naan and cupcakes and whatever other carbs she wants. She doesn't care about cooking oils, types of fat, etc.

        She always acts super smug and like she's doing a perfect 100% on primal when she eats kale and bacon fried in butter, and brags to me about how nutritious she's eating, but then she turns around and says "I'm going to start eating egg white omelets!" and I say "Dear god, why? That shit is completely tasteless and you're missing out on most of the actual nutrition from the egg." The answer? "Well, Beyonce eats them. I want to look like Beyonce!"

        ............

        ........................................ Sigh.

        I realize that it's her body and she can do whatever the hell she wants, but I wish she would at least stop deluding herself that she's eating clean and on the road to losing weight. When we go to the gym together, I lift heavy to failure, and she lifts 5lb weights for a million reps while she stares into space, or goes on the treadmill. She regularly walks 5-6 miles (like a couple times a week), which is great but isn't going to make her build any actual muscle, and she does it so often that her body's probably used to it at this point. She hears about how my clothes are all too loose because I've lost so much weight and she acts like it's just a matter of time before her clothes are loose too, since she's totally doing exactly what I do. Except... uh, not.

        It just really frustrates me that she acts like she knows what she's talking about when she really doesn't. I tell her what I do for my own results and she takes it into consideration as like one of many possible options (which includes straight-up CW nonsense like egg white omelets and low weights at a million reps for "toning"). Eating spaghetti AND butter, bacon AND cupcakes is going to make her gain weight, not lose weight. Biochemistry isn't a pick-and-choose game. You can't just decide for yourself what is going to work, do it really half-assed, and then assume the weight's gonna drop off. She treats it like it's just a matter of time, like she's doing so well and is so disciplined, and all I can do is bite my tongue.
        Last edited by Gravyboat; 05-21-2012, 06:13 AM.

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        • Originally posted by billp View Post
          Any photo of a man from the 1970s or even 80s looks more masculine. I think they are eating too many female hormones somewhere and there is some connection to body building.
          Soy soy soy soy soy (what is in all those "protein" vats, anyway?) in their formula, cereal, protein bars, everything they've eaten since birth, and BCP's in the water supply. It's not a secret.

          Originally posted by billp View Post
          To be honest, I don't really understand the female obsession with shaving either.
          Me, either. It is bizarre.
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          Deadlift: 240lb________________________________________Back Squat: 165lb
          Bench: 130lb__________________________________________Pre ss: 85lb
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          • Agree. What, you think they bother to filter all the hormones out of our water? Hahahahaha. They make sure you can drink it and not die (at least not right away). So all the men you see walking around are basically taking the Pill and getting all estrogen'd up from chemicals, soy and their own excess adipose tissue. It's like they weren't able to finish puberty.That, and then we have people working at desks in their little cubicle farms eating hearthealthywholegrains and fruit sugars every two hours "to keep their energy up". YOU PUT PEOPLE IN A FEEDLOT, STUFF THEM SIX TIMES A DAY, AND THEN WONDER HOW THEY'RE GETTING FAT.

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            • Did it ever occur to anyone that steeping ourselves and our children in pesticides, herbicides and artificial hormones for decades might not be as healthy as they had hoped? The men I see who are my age, they don't even look like men. They look like washed-up fifteen year olds, either twig-skinny or fat with man-boobs, most of them carry blood glucose monitors, and none of them can even grow a proper beard. They're... infantilized physically, for lack of a better term; they look like they never properly grew up. Or is that what dudes are supposed to look like? No wonder I'm never interested in any of 'em.
              I think I live in a land of attractive people..... seriously- everyone at Target on Sunday was fit and lean and attractive. I felt like such a fat ass. I was all proud of my size 12 shorts then felt like a fat ass when some poor normal girl asked for a skirt in an extra small. I felt bad for her because things are so vanity sized now that all the effort she puts into her body is wasted since she can't find proper clothes.

              Also, I see a ton of men with beards... my own vegetarian soy eating husband has a giant beard and copious amounts of hair everywhere.

              But yeah... you do see weird looking weeble men know- small shoulders, large breasts, a gut, an oddly feminine large ass and thin legs.... very pale... It used to be fat men just had big santa bellies.

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              • To lose weight what we need is personal trainers to keep us motivated.

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                • I do drink bottled water at work, but freely drink tap water at home. Maybe I should drink the bottled water at home too. I always sided with the people who thought drinking anything but tap water was a ridiculous pose. I don't want to be eating female homones, and I know exactly where the water comes from here - out of the same river the sewage flows into, then they clean it up a bit. Of course if I was really serious I would collect my own rainwater. That would be much more primal. I shouldn't call it primal, or paleo or anything as there were times when I was a boy when I drank collected rain water, and it was fine. Just very soft. Seeing as Neolithic is still the stone age, calling drinking rain water Paloelithic is a bit of a stretch if you remember doing it when you were younger.

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                  • Originally posted by Spubba View Post
                    Agree. What, you think they bother to filter all the hormones out of our water? Hahahahaha. They make sure you can drink it and not die (at least not right away). So all the men you see walking around are basically taking the Pill and getting all estrogen'd up from chemicals, soy and their own excess adipose tissue. It's like they weren't able to finish puberty.That, and then we have people working at desks in their little cubicle farms eating hearthealthywholegrains and fruit sugars every two hours "to keep their energy up". YOU PUT PEOPLE IN A FEEDLOT, STUFF THEM SIX TIMES A DAY, AND THEN WONDER HOW THEY'RE GETTING FAT.
                    I lol'd big time at this! So true. May have to steal and post on Facebook
                    "The mountains are calling and I must go."
                    --John Muir


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                    • Originally posted by MamaGrok View Post
                      Me, either. It is bizarre.
                      Ohhh... I like shaven, on myself and the husband.
                      Not shaven chests and arms and all... but well trimmed/shaven *parts*.
                      And I'm blonde and not particularly hairy at all... it feels all and smooth and clean and lovely.
                      I started shaving before full shaving was even common, and I didn't do it for men... I preferred it for myself years before anyone ever got close enough to even touch me.

                      I honestly can't imagine how some are comfortable not doing it... *shrug*
                      To each their own and all.

                      Also... I totally get how BPAs happen. Plastic is freaking convenient. The stuff has changes the world, a lot of that change for the better IMO. BUT SOY?????? Wtf is with the SOY? Even in my darkest hour of the little time I spent as a CW health pursuing person... I never got on board with soy. I mean... a little fermented soy on occasion, OK. Some fresh green edamame even, on occasion again. BUT this whole soy protein powder in everything kick... how and why? It tastes like a$$. Awful... I was being told how healthy it was and was all "Umm, no... I'm NOT eating that." I knew it tasted like poison. My friends all thought I was crazy for preferring actual meat! Of course, they probably still think I'm crazy.
                      Last edited by cori93437; 05-21-2012, 06:04 PM.
                      You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.
                      ~Friedrich Nietzsche
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                      • Saw a man "walking" his down along the back lanes....dog was on the leash while he drove his car.
                        Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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                        • Took a 9 mile walk along the Edmonton Riverside win my Merrell barefoot shoes (great way to spend Victoria Day). Came home to check emails and turned on the TV and there is our old friend Dr OZ recommending to wear shoes with good arch support to avoid injury. FFS I just did 9 miles in a couple of hours in my barefoot shoes....prob more millage than most of his viewers do in a month.
                          Eating primal is not a diet, it is a way of life.
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                          • Originally posted by cori93437 View Post
                            And I'm blonde and not particularly hairy at all... it feels all and smooth and clean and lovely.
                            Well, I have dark, thick hair everywhere. Yes, everywhere. All the way up my thighs, on my ass, on my lower back, on my stomach, between my breasts, on my arms, on my face, on my fingers, on my toes. I also get visible stubble within an hour after shaving, and it literally takes me over an hour to shave my whole body, which is basically what is necessary if I wanted to shave some of it. Otherwise there would be a discernible I-stopped-shaving-here line.

                            I honestly can't imagine how some are comfortable not doing it...
                            I'm comfortable not doing it because it takes fucking forever, is more or less ineffective, I get massive amounts of painful ingrown hairs afterward, and I just don't give a fuck. It's just hair. It comes out of my body whether I want it to or not. I stopped fighting it 4 years ago and since then I have never felt better about myself. If anything, I have better luck finding partners now than I did then because I have so much more self-confidence. I don't have to worry if I missed a spot anymore, thus spoiling the illusion, and I don't have any more anxiety about "needing" to shave. It's just all there, all the time. Take it or leave it.

                            And yes, people do give me funny looks in public. I don't give a fuck.

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                            • Originally posted by Dirlot View Post
                              Took a 9 mile walk along the Edmonton Riverside win my Merrell barefoot shoes (great way to spend Victoria Day). Came home to check emails and turned on the TV and there is our old friend Dr OZ recommending to wear shoes with good arch support to avoid injury. FFS I just did 9 miles in a couple of hours in my barefoot shoes....prob more millage than most of his viewers do in a month.
                              My partner just ran a marathon in his. I'll make sure to tell him that Dr. Oz says he's doing it wrong. Oh, I'd better not wear mine up any mountains anymore either! Thank goodness for Dr. Oz and his infinite footwear wisdom.
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                              • Originally posted by Gravyboat View Post
                                Well, I have dark, thick hair everywhere. Yes, everywhere. All the way up my thighs, on my ass, on my lower back, on my stomach, between my breasts, on my arms, on my face, on my fingers, on my toes. I also get visible stubble within an hour after shaving, and it literally takes me over an hour to shave my whole body, which is basically what is necessary if I wanted to shave some of it. Otherwise there would be a discernible I-stopped-shaving-here line.



                                I'm comfortable not doing it because it takes fucking forever, is more or less ineffective, I get massive amounts of painful ingrown hairs afterward, and I just don't give a fuck. It's just hair. It comes out of my body whether I want it to or not. I stopped fighting it 4 years ago and since then I have never felt better about myself. If anything, I have better luck finding partners now than I did then because I have so much more self-confidence. I don't have to worry if I missed a spot anymore, thus spoiling the illusion, and I don't have any more anxiety about "needing" to shave. It's just all there, all the time. Take it or leave it.

                                And yes, people do give me funny looks in public. I don't give a fuck.
                                You are my hero. I wish I could just stop shaving and not give a fuck. I just don't like the attention.
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