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  • #16
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    Tarlach-- THANK YOU. ha. It was driving me nuts.

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    • #17
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      I get a lot of comments about fiber. Like, "You don't eat any grains, even whole grains? Where do you get your fiber?"


      Um, they're called "vegetables," and according to Fitday, they're giving me around 40 grams of fiber a day, with a helluva lot more nutritional value than your precious whole grains.

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      • #18
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        Not so much funny as annoying/embarassing: I'm pretty sure my female roommate thinks I'm crazy now. Before I basically said I was doing gluten-free because I suspected gluten intolerance (which is true, but not the whole story of course; also she has an AWFUL memory about that and will offer me something grain-based at least once a day on average). The other night my boyfriend and I were in the kitchen talking, it was his first day primal and he was going through the sugar/grain withdrawal, saying how bad it must've been for me because I had such a sweet tooth, etc.


        My roommate pops in and asks what we're talking about, so I have to explain that we're doing this low-sugar grain-free no-processed-foods thing, and that when you first cut those out you pretty much go on sugar withdrawal, and she gives me this 'you're CRAZY' look and goes "oh, so, like some sort of diet?" "Uh, not really a diet, moreso a lifestyle change..." "A 'lifestyle change'? Uh huh. But sugar is GOOD!"


        She's basically been surviving on carbs for a while now, lots of cereal, bread, pancakes, pasta, rice, fruit, etc. We had popcorn one night and she said it'd taste so much better with butter, but butter is 'bad'. I hardly ever see her eat protein or fat. And of course she sleeps really late, is tired a lot, rarely has energy during the day then gets spikes of it at random times later on...bleh.


        On a related note: my boyfriend doesn't have a huge sweet tooth but he would eat a lot of pasta and bread and drink soda regularly. On his first day of primal he was pretty much crying to me about really really wanting candy and chocolate and anything with lots of carbs/sugar. Crazy what your body will make you want when it's desperate.

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        • #19
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          @Madame P: And you don't even need fiber. This comes up frequently here. Google "Fiber Menace" and see what this doctor has to say about fiber.


          I'm a Kerouac/Beat aficionado/expert? One of the thing I notice reading On The Road or other period books, was the faith that eating red meat and dairy via milkshakes and ice cream was thought to do one well. I noticed this years before I became aware of Primal, grains, and carbs. The football players would eat these foods, Jack would do so as much as possible. That was the CW of the day, early to mid 20th C. Now we have a different CW. It took 50 years to brainwash the public and scientists, so don't expect any different.


          Here is a link where Jack stopped and had a milkshake. Although not identified in OTR, it was the old Johnson's Corner truck stop in what was the south end of Longmont, CO. The page and pictures are mine: http://www.pbase.com/pzo/kerouac_gas_station_longmontco

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          • #20
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            Does anyone else know folks who rinse their ground beef after cooking to get rid of the fat? A friend, who is very health-conscious in a CW way, told me she does that. I was amazed--never heard of it before.

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            • #21
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              As in, with water? Or methyl ethyl ketone? That will dissolve all the fat, although you might have cancer by tomorrow!


              No, pretty weird. I use paper towels to mop up the obvious excess.

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              • #22
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                Obvious excess in meat fat? That's a funny CW moment

                “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.” -Oscar Wilde
                "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." -George Bernard Shaw
                "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." -Martin Mull

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                • #23
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                  Ha seriously. When I cook a whole chicken in the oven I pick all of the meat off, put it in a container, then pour all the leftover broth and fat in the pan into the storage container. Gotta fatten up that breast meat!

                  You are what you eat,
                  and what you eat eats too - Michael Pollan

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                  • #24
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                    My mother in law bought me a toaster for christmas, what was she trying to say? She knows I haven't eaten bread in 8 years.


                    I took it back to the store. Yep, sure did.

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                    • #25
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                      Cystal, sounds pretty passive-aggressive to me!

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                      • #26
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                        I could have been any of these people you all talk about. But I never cared for the processed stuff though, I ate only ate "healthy" you see - whole grains - spelt, kamut, barley, brown rice, quinoa etc., natural sweeteners like blackstrap molasses, agave (aarrghh!), honey, raw cane sugar. I spent half an hour trimming the fat off a chicken breast! But now I know better.


                        So, the other day, I made some boiled egg curry for the husband dear, he'd already eaten a 2-egg omelette that morning, so he ate the white and was about to discard the precious pastured-yolks. Fortunately, I managed to stop him from doing that just in time and ate up the yolks. Sigh.

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                        • #27
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                          annadragon, sassafrass, serialsinner


                          I havent done a lit search yet (but oooh how Ive been wanting to!). I just shadowed a surgeon and as part of post-diagnostic care they reccomend a lowfat diet. It makes sense, if the fat REALLY does feed the cancer. But there are SO MANY different types of cancers, receptors, mutations and exceptions that I dont know if that statement is true in all cases. Ill get back to you all on thing b/c I am dying to know.

                          Life on Earth may be punishing, but it includes an annual free trip around the sun!

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                          • #28
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                            Crystal W. - My mother does things like that. Drives me CRAZY!


                            I went to visit my parents yesterday. My mom made these cute tiny sandwiches for my dad and I. She knows I don't eat bread. So, she brings out the dish. I told her "Thank you but I don't eat bread." to which she replies "But it's 5-grain." *forehead slap* Then she gets mad when I turn it down still. She's always doing stuff like that. I guess she doesn't think I'm serious when I say "I don't eat ________."

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                            • #29
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                              This is SO not funny, it actually makes me want to cry because it's my sister we're talking about. I was talking to her over the phone and told her how excited I was to have found extra virgin coconut oil in the store here and she said that my cardiologist b-i-l thinks its a bad idea to use coconut oil and that she's using canola oil instead. I want to cry, I REALLY want to cry.

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                              • #30
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                                @maba: Another successful brainwashing!


                                Maybe some of the info on the Weston Price foundation site will at least plant some seeds.

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