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  • Funny/sad moment:
    Was at the 'regular' grocery store today and heard an overweight mom tell her (about 12 year old, skinny as a rail) daughter -- "no, those cheese sticks are bad for you because they have so much fat in them". She then picked up a package of low fat cheese 'food product' and put it in the cart.

    Hey, Mom... listen to what your kid's body is craving and give it to her -- REAL FOOD -- instead of all that over-processed crap!
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    Now 214 -- that's 60 lbs!
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    • When my cousin took her son to his first day of preschool she gave him a couple of squirts in his mouth of a calming spray. She was telling me the next week how well it worked for him and calmed him right down. I was riding with her at the time so I read the ingredient label on this natural, holistic calming spray. First ingredient? Brandy. In a product for young children?!!! OMG!

      No wonder he was calm.
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      • Originally posted by honeybuns View Post
        When my cousin took her son to his first day of preschool she gave him a couple of squirts in his mouth of a calming spray. She was telling me the next week how well it worked for him and calmed him right down. I was riding with her at the time so I read the ingredient label on this natural, holistic calming spray. First ingredient? Brandy. In a product for young children?!!! OMG!

        No wonder he was calm.
        I used to get something similar from my kinesiologist and she mixes it herself. She uses Everclear.
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        • Originally posted by honeybuns View Post
          When my cousin took her son to his first day of preschool she gave him a couple of squirts in his mouth of a calming spray. She was telling me the next week how well it worked for him and calmed him right down. I was riding with her at the time so I read the ingredient label on this natural, holistic calming spray. First ingredient? Brandy. In a product for young children?!!! OMG!

          No wonder he was calm.
          Is that even that big of a deal? No offense or anything, but it just seems like a spray would be such a small amount that it wouldn't be like the kid was having a lot of alcohol or anything....
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          • This conversation reminds me of when my daughter was about 2 years old and had a bad cold with a dry cough that was just making her miserable and she couldn't sleep. We were barely making ends meet but I went to the corner drugstore with the only dollar I had to find cough medicine for a child. This was 1970 and children were not an industry like now. I finally found one labeled for infants and children that cost 95 cents....rasberry something. Gave her the recommended amount and she went right to sleep. I had never seen any medicine work this fast so I decided to check the ingredients. Even though I was only eighteen, I knew 80% alcohol was just wrong. Out went the bottle and I sat up most the night afraid she would stop breathing.

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            • Originally posted by Clymb View Post
              Is that even that big of a deal? No offense or anything, but it just seems like a spray would be such a small amount that it wouldn't be like the kid was having a lot of alcohol or anything....
              I found it wrong from the standpoint of using it as a quick crutch instead of figuring out the underlying problem. Besides, there are herbal calmers so why alcohol?
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              • Originally posted by CattyB View Post
                Funny/sad moment:
                Was at the 'regular' grocery store today and heard an overweight mom tell her (about 12 year old, skinny as a rail) daughter -- "no, those cheese sticks are bad for you because they have so much fat in them". She then picked up a package of low fat cheese 'food product' and put it in the cart.

                Hey, Mom... listen to what your kid's body is craving and give it to her -- REAL FOOD -- instead of all that over-processed crap!
                Looking back, it saddens me how much I wanted to eat the skin of the chicken, or dark meat turkey, and cheese, and butter, but I was chastised for my cravings. Instead, our usual meals were skinless chicken breast (grilled to sanddust perfection), brown rice (with margarine!), and microwaved vegetables (I sh*t you not). Its obvious to me, in retrospect, that growing kids need a lot more caloric energy so no wonder I was craving that stuff, and when fat is withheld, its no wonder we turn to sugar instead. I was so hungry that I would sneak into the pantry and steal spoonfuls of sugar CONSTANTLY.
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                • Originally posted by Corvidae View Post
                  Looking back, it saddens me how much I wanted to eat the skin of the chicken, or dark meat turkey, and cheese, and butter, but I was chastised for my cravings. Instead, our usual meals were skinless chicken breast (grilled to sanddust perfection), brown rice (with margarine!), and microwaved vegetables (I sh*t you not). Its obvious to me, in retrospect, that growing kids need a lot more caloric energy so no wonder I was craving that stuff, and when fat is withheld, its no wonder we turn to sugar instead. I was so hungry that I would sneak into the pantry and steal spoonfuls of sugar CONSTANTLY.
                  I didn't do this constantly, but not infrequently either. My little sister once stole a stick of margarine and took it up to her room to eat it. I think my brother got caught sticking his fingers into the margarine and licking them. I won't go into the rest of the terrible things my mom was feeding us.

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                  • I'd raid the cupboard and eat old frosting, sip vanilla extract, and worse. Anything to try to curb the edge of my over-weight starving body. Cravings like that push you to find nutrition any place it might be. You might find yourself trying to eat your pencil in class or wondering if you can just eat a lot of chewable vitamins. The malnourished, yet overweight body is a demon to be feared.
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                    • The Denmark saturated fat tax has been made official. This isn't funny, though.

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                      • I can totally relate about the sneaking food. Mine was when I was eating disordered though. I would barely eat, and when I did it was usually diet/vegetarian crap, so I would end up sneaking junk food. My favorite thing to make was a mix of sugar, cocoa powder, vanilla, and a bit of canola oil--basically a delicious brownie batter. I would do it almost nightly at one point. It was delicious though lol
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                        --John Muir


                        "I don't know what's wrong with me, but I love this shit."
                        --Tommy Caldwell


                        ‎"Think like a geek. Eat like a hunter. Train like a fighter. Look like a model. Live beyond."
                        --Hyperlithic

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                        • A good friend of mine growing up had a doctor for a dad. He'd take us to much fancier places than I was used to going with my family. I still remember how she would grab the bread basket and just eat the butter pats.

                          Maybe she had something there...
                          Durp.

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                          • I've spent the last week browsing this thread... still only on page 170, lol. But check out this epic CW moment in the news:

                            Denmark's "fat tax" targets butter, burgers

                            (CBS/AP) A fatty cheeseburger may take a toll on your health, but if you live in Denmark, it's also about to take a toll on your wallet.

                            Denmark has imposed a "fat tax" on fatty foods in an effort to convince Danes to eat healthier. The tax is a complex one, in which rates will correspond with the percentage of fat in a product. The value of the tax is about $3.00 for every 2.2 pounds of saturated fat.

                            For example, a burger will increase in price by about $0.15, and a small package of butter could cost around $0.40 more under the new plan.

                            The tax was approved by large majority in a parliament in March as a move to help increase the average life expectancy of Danes - which has fallen below the international average of 79 years - by three years over the next 10 years.

                            Other European countries, including Denmark, have higher fees on sugar and soft drinks, but Linnet Juul, food director at Denmark's Confederation of Industries said he believes Denmark is the first country in the world to tax fatty foods.

                            "Higher fees on sugar, fat and tobacco is an important step on the way toward a higher average life expectancy in Denmark," health minister Jakob Axel Nielsen said when he first introduced the idea in 2009, because "saturated fats can cause cardiovascular disease and cancer."

                            Some Danes are skeptical the tax will succeed. Mathias Buch Jensen, of Copenhagen, told The Guardian that "Danes are big fans of butter."

                            "Knowing the Danes, it could have the opposite effect," Buch Jensen said. "Like naughty children, when they are told not to do something, they do it even more."

                            But would a "fat tax" work in the U.S.? Dr. Marion Nestle, professor of nutrition, food studies, and public health at New York University, told CBS News in an email that a tax like this would be "impossible" to pass in the States.

                            "We can't even get a tax passed on sugary beverages, which ought to be an easy target," she told CBS News.

                            Nestle also questions the importance of saturated fat for lowering heart disease risk, which "remains to be proven." But she thinks if the tax's goal were to prevent skyrocketing obesity rates, then taxes should be imposed on other major sources of calories - like grain-based or dairy desserts, alcoholic beverages, pizza and pasta dishes, sodas.

                            Said Nestle, "I'm for imposing the highest possible taxes on companies that market sugary drinks in general and junk foods to kids in particular."
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                            • True confessions time.

                              A few years ago, I could not stay out of the dog food and dog treats. No matter what I tried I ended up scarfing down over eight cups of dry dog food a day. Didn't matter that I could see the bones and hair in it. No matter where I hid it, no matter what I told myself I would consume it by the double handful.
                              I was experiencing very heavy periods, almost to the point of hemmorhage and one day it dawned on me that I should probably be taking an iron supplement. Oh, maybe a multi vitamin as well. Just as soon as I started taking those I walked away from the dog food and never looked back. Obviously I was trying to replace something my body was lacking.
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                              • Nestle also questions the importance of saturated fat for lowering heart disease risk, which "remains to be proven." But she thinks if the tax's goal were to prevent skyrocketing obesity rates, then taxes should be imposed on other major sources of calories - like grain-based or dairy desserts, alcoholic beverages, pizza and pasta dishes, sodas.

                                Said Nestle, "I'm for imposing the highest possible taxes on companies that market sugary drinks in general and junk foods to kids in particular."
                                For someone named Nestle, she seems to know what she's talking about with regards to nutrition.

                                Why can't we put people like her in charge?

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