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  • Originally posted by Owly View Post
    I wonder what people thought we did for millennia before the invention of the athletic shoe in the last century. Apparently all people before that time were absolutely destroying their flawed, flawed feet by daring to run without the assistance of Nike, Adidas, and their friends.
    You only need to look at modern-day hunter-gatherers or even just people living in developing countries where it's normal to be barefoot all the time to see that they have much, much stronger feet.

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    • I think the shoe thing touches on my philosophies (and I'm sure it's true for you guys, too) about almost everything now. Why do I need to take a pill? Isn't my body designed to work correctly? Why do I *need* this or that? We create problems for ourselves, then we create solutions that don't address the problem and create other, different problems. Etc. Etc. It's maddening. People never ever question why we *need* shoes, we *need* drugs, we *need* sunscreen, and then you're crazy for questioning it. The quote about being disconnected from the matrix pretty much sums it up. People just don't get it. Sometimes it does make me feel crazy, lol. Because it's all so simple.
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      • Madelyn, you make a good point. We're conditioned from an early age to believe that problems are best solved by spending money. Sick? Buy a pill. Bored? Buy some entertainment. Unfit? Buy exercise equipment, magazine subscriptions, gym memberships, nutritional supplements, instructional DVDs, ad infinitum. Billions of dollars are made reinforcing the mentality of dependency, while very little money can be made teaching people to be self-sufficient.

        Even Vibrams exploit this conditioning. Want to free your feet? Don't go barefoot; you might hurt yourself. Instead, buy these special shoes that mimic bare feet. Don't get me wrong, I love my Vibrams (mostly for wearing in places that require shoes). But they are not necessary to walk properly.

        The myth that life's challenges require consumer solutions is one of the biggest obstacles to taking control of our health. Accepting that the solutions lie within ourselves takes uncommon insight, social courage, and the integrity to admit that we were wrong for many years.

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        • In all fairness, Grok didn't have to walk on concrete. I'm all for a little cushioning then, even if it's just fluffy socks!
          Bunny trainer extraordinaire!

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          • Originally posted by Timothy View Post
            Even Vibrams exploit this conditioning. Want to free your feet? Don't go barefoot; you might hurt yourself. Instead, buy these special shoes that mimic bare feet. Don't get me wrong, I love my Vibrams (mostly for wearing in places that require shoes). But they are not necessary to walk properly.
            This is true, but in urban areas...I live in San Francisco, and honestly, if its not broken glass and bits of metal, its "biological contaminants" :P But I agree that its a tricky line, developing a product for a lifestyle that is values being free of supplementary-products. And honestly, I feel like many of the latest VFF models have thicker soles with more engineering, which is frustrating.

            But imma keep buying them, and wearing them. Honestly its gotten to the point where putting on normal shoes feels like Im wearing boxing gloves on my feet. Balancing on busses and climbing the hill I live on is SOO much easier when I have the full range of motion in my feet.
            "Since going primal, I've found that there are very few problems that cannot be solved with butter and/or bacon fat."

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            • Originally posted by gunnk View Post
              To which I can honestly answer: "No, I switched to steak and bacon and LOST weight. Then I added muscle, stopped having acid reflux and my asthma went away after having 30 years of medication just to control it." The proof is in the (primal) pudding!
              Exactly! Ha, when they ask me how I've done so well and I tell them I've cut gluten, upped my fat, upped my protein, upped my calories they say "oh, that would never work for me!" Ok, go ahead and continue on your "diet"... I can see you're having great success.

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              • Originally posted by Corvidae View Post
                This is true, but in urban areas...I live in San Francisco, and honestly, if its not broken glass and bits of metal, its "biological contaminants" :P
                I know how you feel. Negligent dog owners are my barefooting pet peeve. West LA has similar issues as San Francisco, but I've never had a problem as long as I stick to the side streets. Once your soles have toughened up, which took several months in my case, even broken glass is not a problem unless the shards are especially large. Tree seeds can be painful, but dodging obstacles is all part of the fun.

                And I agree, wearing shoes feels ridiculous after you're used to barefoot or minimalist gear. I put on some Nike Lunar Racers this weekend and it felt like stomping around in elevator shoes.

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                • Originally posted by Timothy View Post
                  I know how you feel. Negligent dog owners are my barefooting pet peeve. West LA has similar issues as San Francisco, but I've never had a problem as long as I stick to the side streets. Once your soles have toughened up, which took several months in my case, even broken glass is not a problem unless the shards are especially large. Tree seeds can be painful, but dodging obstacles is all part of the fun.
                  Ha, well here theres more than a little human waste around as well. :/ And yeah, i definitely am more conscious of the ground I am walking on, dodging not only painful-looking rocks but uneven sidewalks, which are a danger to any foot, shod or not. Although, ha, a couple weeks ago I wasnt paying attention closely enough and I stepped right in some fresh dog stuff. Even though I had my VFFs on, I felt so much more of the squishy, slidey sensation that i FREAKED OUT until we found some grass to wipe it off on (thank goodness I didnt step on it with my TOES). I guess I consider them to be a part of my own body, in some way. ;D
                  "Since going primal, I've found that there are very few problems that cannot be solved with butter and/or bacon fat."

                  My amusing take on paleo-blogging: http://whatshouldwecallpaleolife.tumblr.com/

                  Are you a Primal in San Francisco, or the SF Bay Area in general? Join our facebook group!

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                  • SF does sound rather freakier than my town.

                    Originally posted by Corvidae View Post
                    Although, ha, a couple weeks ago I wasnt paying attention closely enough and I stepped right in some fresh dog stuff. Even though I had my VFFs on, I felt so much more of the squishy, slidey sensation that i FREAKED OUT until we found some grass to wipe it off on (thank goodness I didnt step on it with my TOES). I guess I consider them to be a part of my own body, in some way. ;D
                    You stepped in it? OMG, my living nightmare! I'll tread on almost anything; bird poo, garbage, bees... but mammal waste, that would give me a serious case of heebie-jeebies. And hookworm.

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                    • Originally posted by MadelynMc View Post
                      Why do I need to take a pill?...
                      United States has the pleasure of being the country to invent a "pill" for stopping a perfectly healthy body part from functioning properly... "The Pill".
                      The eyes of all hope in thee, O Lord: and thou givest them meat in due season.
                      Psalms 144:15

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                      Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.
                      Pope John Paul II

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                      • Originally posted by Corvidae View Post
                        Ha, well here theres more than a little human waste around as well. :/
                        I hear ya. I work in alleys a lot, and there's more of that around than you would imagine.
                        Durp.

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                        • Originally posted by sires6 View Post
                          United States has the pleasure of being the country to invent a "pill" for stopping a perfectly healthy body part from functioning properly... "The Pill".
                          There is a book I had to read in school titled Overdosed America which is about the over abundance of pharmaceuticals and the shadiness that surrounds it all (marketing, doctors, etc). Good info, although a little dry a lot of times. It's amazing what harm these drugs do in order to make someone think they are going to feel better.

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                          • I heard on the news yesterday that more and more Americans are cutting back on prescriptions and medical visits due to their financial situation and how horrible this is omigawd and my first thought was "is that really such a BAD thing?" I suppose it is if someone absolutely must have rx meds to live, but hopefully this gives the overmedicated ones a chance to see that they really don't need the majority of that crap.

                            I wish more people could understand that diet is the best medicine of all.
                            2011 - The year I went Primal
                            Start weight: 198 / Waist: 32"
                            CW: 158.5 / Waist: 28"
                            GW: 145-ish
                            Supplements: Calcium and O-3 in AM. Natural Calm, Valerian Root Extract and sublingual Melatonin in PM (for lifelong chronic insomnia).

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                            • My Dad and his wife go on the 'master cleanse' program about 3x a year for 21 days. (For those unfamiliar, it involves nothing but water, lemon juice, cayenne pepper and tree syrup for the duration of the cleanse. No food) This is to help clean themselves of the toxins and weight they've accumulated between cleanses. (They eat organically but when you're making food from Mario Batali and Ina Garten..... neither of whom are known for the svelte figures...... this crap happens)

                              Me: You know, you could just....... eat better.
                              Them: We enjoy the food we eat in between.
                              Me: But do you enjoy 63 days a year of not eating at all and gagging this stuff down?
                              Them: (Crickets chirping) Well, no, but it works.

                              *sigh*

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                              • The myth that life's challenges require consumer solutions is one of the biggest obstacles to taking control of our health. Accepting that the solutions lie within ourselves takes uncommon insight, social courage, and the integrity to admit that we were wrong for many years.
                                Very insightful and so true.

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