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    Hi all!

    I stumbled across "The Primal Blueprint" (and this forum) today by way of one of my facebook acquaintances. I read on the site where following the primal blueprint can increase insulin sensitivity?


    Are there any type II diabetics on the forum who have had success with this?


    I take medicine for my diabetes (no insulin yet, thankfully) but I still struggle keeping my glucose down. I get in a pretty good martial arts workout at minimum one hour twice a week, usually three times a week since last October.


    While my endurance has been getting somewhat better, it still isn't where I want it to be. After 5 minutes of sparring/grappling I'm completely gassed. I know this is partly because of my diet - I just don't eat enough - but I believe that my insulin resistance plays a big factor, too.


    I would love to get to the point where I could discontinue my diabetes medication, and make it through a sparring session without getting clobbered 10 minutes in because I'm too worn out to move or keep my hands up!


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    I have never had insulinissues but a lot of people around here and all over the paleo community swear by eliminating the main dietary cause of diabetes, being carbs and especially fructose. There is more to developing it than just carbs, but the one thing that most agree upon is the importance pf eliminating the large, prolonged glucose-spikes that cause so much damaging to the body.


    Here's a study http://www.mcgraw-hill.co.uk/html/0071621504.html


    I think reducing fructose is just as, if not more, important than starch, but it's clear that both are bad guys.

    Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

    Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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      Also paleo makes you eliminate a lot of other things like lectins which can damage insulin-receptors and phytates that can create magnesium deficiency, further-exacerbating the problem. It's just an unbelievably healthy way of living and eating and the benefits are so far-reaching that you might as well give it a try.

      Stabbing conventional wisdom in its face.

      Anyone who wants to talk nutrition should PM me!

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        I'm not a diabetic, but my A1C went from 6.0 to 5.7 on the Paleo diet. I'm fairly confident that it's even lower now, but I'll have to let you know in a week or so when this latest test is back.


        I think your energy level will probably go up. A lot of people here talk about a "low-carb flu" in the beginning. It's said to make you sluggish for the first few days, up to weeks, but I didn't have any of that. Though I will say that I didn't realize just how much better I felt until I ate poorly for a bit.


        You can use the search box above to search the forum here, but I'd probably recommend searching while on the "home" tab. You'll come up with more than enough to keep you reading for a while, but you can start with this: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/diabetes/

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          Oh, just in case you didn't know, Paleo is similar, but there are some differences with the Primal Blueprint guidelines that have made all the difference in the world for me.

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            When I eat the SAD I have "prediabetes" because my blood sugar spikes. When I eat low cab it NEVER gets above 100mg/dl!

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              Info here http://www.marksdailyapple.com/diabetes/


              Read Griff's story http://www.marksdailyapple.com/the-b...of-a-new-life/ and ongoing here http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...al-%28Griff%29


              (Griff is a highly respected guy on these forums, an expert on cholesterol, and all round fantastic person )

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                Hey there, kerb! I was prediabetic (thanks to PB I'm back into normal range) and my mom is T2. Mom eats PB about 90% of the time & it's really helped her get control of her blood sugar. She's even doing a 6-month doc-approved trial w/o her meds (she was on Glucophage). She's 65 and was diagnosed T2 about 15 years ago. She's lost quite a bit of weight, has more energy and feels great. She works at a garden center, too, and does a lot of heavy lifting. She's noticed she has more muscular strength this year as she gets into some of the more heavy duty work at the garden center.


                She did have to keep tabs on her blood sugar when she started PB to make sure she didn't go too low. So if you want to try it, it's certainly worth trying! Good luck!

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                  Thanks everybody for the responses.


                  I'm definitely going to give it a primal blueprint / paleo a try.

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                    Hi Kerb. I am a type II diabetic, diagnosed about 4-5 months ago with a fasting blood glucose in the mid-300's. I did not have an A1c at diagnosis. About six weeks after diagnosis, my A1C was 7.8.


                    I immediately went mostly-unprocessed foods and lower carb, and have slowly gone more and more "primal"-- though I definitely keep that 20 percent leeway, for emotional/social/mental health reasons.


                    From what I can figure out, although everyone is different, I'm pretty lucky to be keeping my BG where it is. I'm not sure it's good enough, and I do take glipizide. I have another blood test next month. I DO know that when I stray too much from "primal," it soars.


                    I do feel great, and I've lost about 40 pounds since November. However, I plateau often and right now I'm stuck.


                    A number of us track BG in our journals on here--I do, and I believe pianodoctorlady and baglady do as well, and I think I'm forgetting someone. You might check out the journals of Griff and DiabetesCanKissMyButt, I believe they are happy with their successes.

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                      Aw shucks, NMC. Thank you.

                      If you read my story, you'll see that I've normalized my sugars and stopped all diabetes medication. It can be done. I encourage you to do it.
                      Primal eating in a nutshell: If you are hungry, eat Primal food until you are satisfied (not stuffed). Then stop. Wait until you're hungry again. Repeat.

                      Looking for my Cholesterol Primer? Here it is: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum...mer-(Attempt-2)


                      Ditch the scale!: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread33283.html

                      My Success Story: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/forum/thread30615.html

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                        Diagnosed over 3 years ago. Started eating primal in December and so far have lost 60lbs. and lowered my A1C to 4.9. My post prandrial blood sugars are always under in the 85-105 range now. I have diabetic co-workers and it's sad to watch them eating carbs all day knowing that it's killing them. I remember those cravings. It's an addiction. Before going primal and going through about a week's withdrawal, I literally felt like I was starving if I didn't eat every 2-3 hours. Now I can go 8, 10, 12 hours and not feel a pang of hunger. Last week I did a 36 hour fast and didn't really feel hungry until into the 30th hour. So if you're diabetic, especially if you have high insulin resistance this may well be the best way to eat. Yeah primal!

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                          My story: I was ADDICTED to ice cream and cookies. Almost every night I'd take a hage amount of ice cream, cruble a few homemade chocolate chocolate chip cookies on it, then pour milk in it.


                          I'm 6' tall, and weighed 185, but I still looked thin because I carried all of the excess weight in my abdomen, and I was good as sucking it in all the time. My back hurt from sucking it in so much! I looked 8 months pregnant when I looked int he mirror.

                          I finally was diagnosed as a prediabetic with a OGTT of 160's. I got a meter and my fastings were 125 -135.

                          Like a good RN, I started on the ADA diet for diabetics. The short story there is that if you follow that diet, you WILL end up on diabetic meds. Anyway, I only got worse on that diet, like everyoen else does.

                          After a 199 OGTT, I came home and told my wife I was NOT going down the diabetic path. I'm an RN, and I know the misery and death it causes.


                          That day I eliminated all carbs and processed foods and vegitable oils, flours etc, and decided to eat "real food" only. Coconut oil, raw milk (usually from goats) pastured eggs, grassfed beef and 10,000U a day of D3 suppliment. Was it pricey? Sure. Worth it. Absolutly.


                          So basically I went primal without knowing what it was. Later I found this website.


                          4 months after the cold-turkey change, My OGTT went down to 100, almost a 100 point drop! (Anything below 140 is considered normal). My A1C a few weeks ago was 5.2. My random glucose was 80. D level was 74.9. Blood pressure went from 135/95 ish to 110/65ish. Dropped 30 lbs from my gut. I'm now 6' and 155 lbs. Close to high school weight (I'll be 50 in 2 weeks).


                          It's been 3 years now, and there's no looking back. I'm stronger than ever and recently at the beach some pictures were taken. I was shirtless and I gotta say, I looked good! I was really surprised.

                          I also took up martial arts last August. I do that once or twice a week. It is a good workout, and yea, the sparring can leave you whipped! (I also do strength training a couple of days a week and have worked up to being able to do 70 good form pushups in a row.

                          Keep it up. You'll get there!

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                            I am actually not happy with my "success." My goal was to get off medication. Which I did for about a month and my fasting sugars started creeping back up into the 150's so I went back on the medication. It's been a very frustrating experience. I went to Florida in January to visit my mother's side of the family and discovered that every single one of them had type 2 and none of them are fat either. I think I just inherited some genetic flaw that has caused this and the mono that I had a few years back triggered it. That's my best guess. Boo!

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