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    Good morning. I'm a long time lurker and first time poster here. I'm looking for ideas to politely encourage better health at my workplace. A group of very dedicated and selfless coworkers participate in the Susan G Komen 3 day walk for breast cancer research. One of their fundraisers is to place candy and snacks(chips and such) in the kitchen with a donation container. I'm all for raising money for a good cause and I believe their cause is noble. I think their choice of a fundraiser sends a bad message given the charity. Any suggestions the Primal crowd can offer would be appreciated. I'm sure many of you have experienced similar things at your work. Thanks!


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    Trade emails with the kitchen manager - and get HR's approval ahead of time. The healthier people eat, you'd explain, the less sick time the organization might see. With their blessing, see if the kitchen manager can make a healthy offering one day a week. Call it Wellness Wednesday or something like that. And, for snacks, see if they could order packaged almonds to put in with the chips, candy, etc. At least that alternative would be available.

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      Good luck,


      My workmates just keep repeating "everything in moderation" and "it's whatever works for you".


      Both intellectually lazy arguments to make them feel better.


      They're also gaining weight or struggling on very low cal diets and innefficient gym routines ("wensday I do upper arms, friday mid arms, etc.)


      I attribute this to intellectual laziness - they're stuck in their ways and refuse to challenge what they believe. It's a comfort blanket, and telling them that they're wrong just makes them resort to the same old answers.


      If you've noticed, the people that live a healthy lifestyle are often more "engaged" in thinking and constantly challenging themselves.


      J

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        It's sad that they're using snacks and candy, it really is.

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          Yeah. Selling candy to support Komen for the Cure makes about as much as sense as sinking bazillions of dollars into researching "The Cure" in the first place. How about PREVENTION, people??? Get it right on prevention, and you won't NEED a cure, NOW WILL YOU??? *headdesk*


          Sorry to shout. This might be a pet peeve of mine.

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            I attribute this to intellectual laziness - they're stuck in their ways and refuse to challenge what they believe. It's a comfort blanket, and telling them that they're wrong just makes them resort to the same old answers.


            If you've noticed, the people that live a healthy lifestyle are often more "engaged" in thinking and constantly challenging themselves.
            Very well put. I see sow many coworkers in this description and usually chose to not even bother to ever say anything to them. They just get very defensive.

            I always understood what it was, but you just put it so well here.


            On the subject though...it might be very hard to change mind-sets of all of your coworkers single-handedly. If you're up to it though, why not make some home-made primal treats to raise the funds? For example, instead of making regular cookies, why not make some coconut macaroons? Just whip up some egg whites, add a bit of natural sweetener like stevia, and then fold in some shredded coconut. Bake just like regular cookie and offer your co-workers a healthy alternative they can feel good about buying and eating.

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              I agree with all of you so far. We're talking about a complete paradigm shift, and for most people that's not appealing (because they are lazy, not willing to challenge themselves). I'm still in the process of convincing my family (more importantly my fiance, to switch to PB, which has been so frustrating I've given up!!!). She is a P.E. teacher and has a good amount of physical science classes under her belt (kinesiology, anatomical physiology, exercise physiology etc..) Needless to say her CW attitude is telling her that I'm wrong. She also works out with a group of people at a large gym, they have a personal trainer and dietitian to "help" them. She's been working out for 3 months and hasn't seen impressive results (I think she's lost 3-5lbs). She is also victim to counting calories, as if they are the only thing that matter, which is SOOOOOOOO frustrating. I think we just need to do the best we can to promote health to people we work with or loved ones and if we can get them to eliminate processed food, that would be a great accomplishment. If anyone has any suggestions to help "convert" my fiance, let me know!

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                ("wensday I do upper arms, friday mid arms, etc.)

                I laughed out loud at this. So true!

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                  too bad I have a typo...


                  Wednesday

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                    Thanks for everyone's input and suggestions. I knew this might strike a chord with a few folks around here. It's an uphill struggle, but worth it.

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                      The two most damaging thoughts in the CW paradigm;


                      1. "Everything in moderation"

                      2. "Whatever works for you"


                      The only thing in moderation they're getting is life. That kind of thinking is void of any substance or rigour.


                      J

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                        It took me me 7 months to have my boyfriend finally give pb a try. I understood right away that preaching and negging was definitely not a good strategy so I just stopped completely. He would eat what I prepare which is always primal, but then eat whatever at work or when he's out with his friends. After a while though he started noticing how junk food would make him feel sick and bloated. He's now trying to eat full-time primal He's not doing very well just yet, but it's a huge step from the beginning of our journey when he was convinced I'm going to get a heart attack eating this way.

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                          Unfortunately, this goes beyond diet. Years of social conditioning and the need to "fit" within the paradigm has resulted in our dependance on this social comfort - which often impedes the ability to think critically and challenge ourselves.


                          One of my co-workers is 100% unable to change anything about his routine. I can see fear in his eyes when challenged. Going to the gym, working one muscle group a day, eating whole wheat - they all make him feel comfortable in the notion that he's being healthy. In a way, he even admits to this when he says "I just wouldn't enjoy it otherwise" - a way out of having to think about anything I suppose. He's just an example that typifies CW.


                          But then again, we all have our comforts...


                          J

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                            Frankly, I wouldn't worry about persuading other people. Lead by example.


                            My friends and coworkers - even my wife - are generally shocked that I consider a breve latte (a latte made with half and half instead of milk) to be 'a bit thin' and that I do things like put butter on my steak. They chock it up to my age (26) and 'metabolism'. They may start to wonder what's up though, when I pass 30 and am still eating like this.

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                              It seems that the "How do I convince (fill in the blank)" question pops up weekly.


                              My question back is, "By what right do you think you need to tell (fill in the blank) how to eat?" You would be annoyed if your (fill in the blank)'s were trying to get you to believe in their religion, right?


                              Let them be. Live your life, not theirs.

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